The Last Remnant

Sash · 21 Jul 2009 at 09:19

Was considering getting this since its been out for a few months now on steam. But noticed this is still £29.99 on Steam >_>

Anyone else played it? Is it worth the full price? If not what other JRPGs are there on PC?

HeX · 21 Jul 2009 at 09:21

You can get it for £9.99 delivered on retail, don't pay that price on Steam.

barmyllama · 21 Jul 2009 at 09:23

Meh, it's definitely no Final Fantasy.

Sash · 21 Jul 2009 at 09:27

barmyllama said:
Meh, it's definitely no Final Fantasy.

I heard it was a bit dodgy but in the mood for a JRPG to waste my life on.
Its a shame Lost Odyssey isnt on the PC.

malachi · 21 Jul 2009 at 09:34

Sash said:
Was considering getting this since its been out for a few months now on steam. But noticed this is still £29.99 on Steam >_>

Anyone else played it? Is it worth the full price? If not what other JRPGs are there on PC?

Its a good game once you get used to unique battle system. Think the demo is still out and about somewhere.

Sash · 21 Jul 2009 at 09:52

malachi said:
Its a good game once you get used to unique battle system. Think the demo is still out and about somewhere.

Yeah I noticed it, but demos for RPGs arent usually very good as they dont give a proper feel of the storyline.

Shadows1990 · 21 Jul 2009 at 11:16

Last Remnant can apparently be activated on Steam.
So, buy it for £9.99 retail, then activate through Steam :cool:

OT: I played this a while back when it was first released, and liked it. However, I never really felt there was enough to pull you in, as the story wasn't really all that for a Square Enix game

FlukeRogi · 21 Jul 2009 at 12:32

Sash said:
Yeah I noticed it, but demos for RPGs arent usually very good as they dont give a proper feel of the storyline.

I posted quite a few opinions when it was first launched, but in briefly-ish-sorta:

It's no Final Fantasy, but for my money, no other JRPGs are. However, it is a good game, and yes, the demo gives a bit of a poor/confusing representation of the full game.

It took some time to get into/click with me, but it is a very good game once you get into it. Can't compare to Lost Odyssey, but it wipes the floor with Blue Dragon imo.

There is a HUGE amount of content away from the main story arc, so plenty to get stuck into.

So, if you generally like SquareSoft/Enix games, it's well worth a go, especially as was mentioned above, you can get the boxed version for a tenner which requires installation under Steam anyway.

Sash · 21 Jul 2009 at 13:35

That seems to help thanks mate. Will try the Demo tonight (yay for fast internet) and have a play around. Then will try and find for cheap elsewhere

Doesnt seem to be much in the way of alternatives for the PC?

Kelt · 21 Jul 2009 at 13:41

Well I finished this game (rare event for me), but a tad disappointed with the ending. As someone said the story is a non-event, but not a bad JRPG all the same.

Worth it it for a tenner but no more.

D13 · 21 Jul 2009 at 14:01

I absolutely hate this game, so sad as jrpgs are ultra rare on pc and typically when they release one it is dire. What I cant stand is the combat, instead of controlling individuals you control lots of small groups and ahhhhhh it is just a freaking mess.

FlukeRogi · 21 Jul 2009 at 14:09

Sash said:
That seems to help thanks mate. Will try the Demo tonight (yay for fast internet) and have a play around. Then will try and find for cheap elsewhere

Doesnt seem to be much in the way of alternatives for the PC?

As mentioned, the demo is a bit confusing really, but one thing to note is the "radar" at the top when selecting which ememy units to attack. Essential in order to know who you're actually attacking.

No, there isn't much in the way of PC JRPG options really, though Square did say the plan on supporting the PC from the Last Remnant onwards with big releases. We can only hope...

Phatjayunoi · 21 Jul 2009 at 21:09

D13 said:
I absolutely hate this game, so sad as jrpgs are ultra rare on pc and typically when they release one it is dire. What I cant stand is the combat, instead of controlling individuals you control lots of small groups and ahhhhhh it is just a freaking mess.

I personally think the combat is the best part of the game as it is something quite unique on it's own style. I mean yeah sure, you cannot control each character's actions and make them each use their own abilities, but I liek the fact that having huge group (Unions) battles makes for some very fun, long lasting games that really requires some strategy. It actually makes you think about how you want to attack and which would be the right move to go about.

And yes as mentioned above, you can purchase the game on retail disc for £9.99 if you look around. It will be connected with Steam anyways when you install it so it should be no problem.

As for the game itself, it is a hell of a lot better than the Xbox 360 version that is for sure, especially if you have a good PC system. There may be a few oddities in there, like texture loading when you first go into an area, but then that is in huge part due to the way the Unreal 3 Engine works (It will be the same for other games powered by this). There are some other tweaks and PC exclusive features like the Turbo Mode which makes the battles look hilariously fast, new skills and abilities, much harder monsters with higher health, and generally the overall performance of the game is better.

Yes it is no Final Fantasy, but if people can stop comparing it to that series and just because it's a Square-Enix made game that it has to be, then it can be enjoyable on it's own.

There really is no other alternatives for the PC, especially in the modern sense for JRPGs, unless you want to look at really older games like Breath of Fire IV, Grandia II and of course Final Fantasy VII & VIII. There are some good PC JRPG's developed by Falcom (Y's series), but they are pretty much Japanese only and with no intention of being released elsewhere in other languages, unless you want to dig deep and look for fan-made patches.

Sash · 21 Jul 2009 at 21:13

I've been playing a lot of the older ones already on my PC. Tried the demo of Last Remnant, didnt seem too impressed but will pick it up if I see it cheap instore

Phatjayunoi · 21 Jul 2009 at 21:35

Yeah like FlukeRogi mentioned before, the PC demo does give a really bad representation of the game as it just thrusts you right in there so you have no idea what is going on, or neither knowing how the hell the battle and leveling up system mechanics work.

The demo isn't very far off from the beginning of the game anyways as it is only like a few chapters in. The full game though, you will get some explaination of how things work, but disappointly, there is no tutorial at all.

Sash · 21 Jul 2009 at 21:38

Phatjayunoi said:
Yeah like FlukeRogi mentioned before, the PC demo does give a really bad representation of the game as it just thrusts you right in there so you have no idea what is going on, or neither knowing how the hell the battle and leveling up system mechanics work.

The demo isn't very far off from the beginning of the game anyways as it is only like a few chapters in. The full game though, you will get some explaination of how things work, but disappointly, there is no tutorial at all.

Seems stupid since the battle system is unique lol

Phatjayunoi · 21 Jul 2009 at 21:45

Sash said:
Seems stupid since the battle system is unique lol

Yep it sure is.

But then if you have the time and patience, you can figure out how things work and there is some huge depth in it. Obviously there will always be some confusing elements though, especially when it came to how the skills work, gathering loot items for upgrading/customising weapons and the task of keeping in track of each character's statistics and what they have. It's like Square-Enix intentionally did not make a tutorial so you HAVE to really think about it (In a way I like this since it turns you into an amatuer strategist

), or force you to buy the official guide books.