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Thekwango said:
Sorry dude, couldn’t resist. Let’s try and stay positive at least until our first tanking at OT by some other mid table team - then we can go full on #toysoutthepramburntheplacetotheground :p
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The leaks in the roof/midfield/betweenthesticks would put out any flames

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We just have to wait and see. They are clearly trying to improve the squad in a measured and balanced way, which is what everyone wants.

If we sign Sesko, an attack of Cunha, Mbeumo and Sesko would be pretty exciting to watch. No guarantees of course, and there never will be - it's football!

I can certainly see a situation where things go very well, good new players, no European football, plenty of time to learn his system. But I can also see the opposite, where it's a disaster.

Amorim has got to start well though, they won't allow this to spiral out of control.
 
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Burnley (H)
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Chelsea (H)
Brentford (A)
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Liverpool (A)

15 points would be a reasonable start?
The biggest problem for us will be that its basically 2.5 months to play 8 matches. I think that's tough - big gaps between matches allows the media to build their agenda and not enough opportunities to try things in match situations. Plus it's going to be boring as hell waiting for the weekend.
 
Calpol said:
Arsenal (H)
Fulham (A)
Burnley (H)
City (A)
Chelsea (H)
Brentford (A)
Sunderland (H)
Liverpool (A)

15 points would be a reasonable start?
The biggest problem for us will be that its basically 2.5 months to play 8 matches. I think that's tough - big gaps between matches allows the media to build their agenda and not enough opportunities to try things in match situations. Plus it's going to be boring as hell waiting for the weekend.
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I would expect us to pick up perhaps 4 points from the Arsenal, Chelsea, City and Liverpool games. Then perhaps 9 or 10 points points from the other 4. I think 15 points would be pushing it.
 
That is quite a tough start, but it's more about how we're playing too. Obviously there could be more transfer business imminent, but... 14 points, maybe?
 
Robbo said:
We just have to wait and see. They are clearly trying to improve the squad in a measured and balanced way, which is what everyone wants.

If we sign Sesko, an attack of Cunha, Mbeumo and Sesko would be pretty exciting to watch. No guarantees of course, and there never will be - it's football!

I can certainly see a situation where things go very well, good new players, no European football, plenty of time to learn his system. But I can also see the opposite, where it's a disaster.

Amorim has got to start well though, they won't allow this to spiral out of control.
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Our defence was never a problem last season we just couldn't score goals. If those two players can get 20-30 goals between them we will be fighting for top 4 without Europe.
 
I think preseason, they are looking like they are playing Amorims system better. I also think not having European football will help out, yes we wont get as many matches to get used to the system more during competitive play, BUT we will have more training sessions to drill the system into the heads of the players.. Pretty sure Amorim mentioned on more than a couple of occasions, he didn't have enough training sessions last season. To add, he started half way into a season. I think Utd will do well this year. Get at least10 points from the first 5 games and were cooking. I am hyped for this season. I think the Prem will be tougher then ever too. I foresee a good season of football all round.
 
Quite a charm offensive from the club regarding Amorim. Huge pressure, but I really hope he's the man.

Get him a couple more players, give him the absolute best chance...


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Calpol said:
Kobbie Mainoo - discuss.
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very difficult one that. as has been said, the lad at times has shown flashes of proper top tier ability. his press resistance and tight control can at times be absolutely top notch but on other occasions he just looks like a little boy, lost and completely out of his depth. but that doesn't surprise me - the club hasn't been in a good place for a number of years. it's certainly not been somewhere i'd confidently expect raw talent to develop and mature - hopefully that is changing so we shall see if RA can get more consistency out of Mainoo and improve his overall game.
 
For me Kobbie is an enigma. Brilliant in tight spaces, quick feet, calm in the box and a decent finisher. Not a thrasher but finishes with finesse. He's already given some brilliant moments. FA Cup Final, equaliser against Athletic Club. He's had a few injuries and for me was prematurely propelled into the England set up but in fairness he did ok in the games I saw him play in last years Euros. Playing in a three seemed to suit him.

Where he fits now, in this United team, I can't work out.
I watch him and see him coast around. He's a bit like McSauce in that he never seems to bust a gut. Gliding in possession over 5-10 yards and he looks magnificent. Out of possession he looks a bit clueless. I don't see him reading the game well in a defensive sense. Physically he lacks power and unfortunately that is what United most lack in midfield. In an ideal world he learned his trade off prime Casemiro but we don't have that player. For me he's not a 10 in this team. Cunha and Mbeumo are more explosive and will bring more penetration and guile. Mount is more similar but for now he presses better and passes better. The plan to play with only 2 conventional midfielders in this system exposes our lack of quality and if you line Kobbie up against almost any other Top 10 club midfielder - I think he struggles.

As I said, an engima.

He's only 20, clearly still developing physically so hopefully Amorim can nurture the talent that is there but Kobbie is going to need to show patience and application to earn a place in this team.
 
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