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The next gen xxnm GPU thread.
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GPU related in that 16nm GPU's will be using it. TechInsights blog article on HBM. Some SEM images and structural analysis.
Hats Off to Hynix: Inside 1st High Bandwidth Memory
Hats Off to Hynix: Inside 1st High Bandwidth Memory
Hats Off to Hynix: Inside 1st High Bandwidth Memory.
I think you might be right, if HBM2.0 is going to be in short supply then it would make sense to launch big chip Pascal first with crazy prices and low supply (for the low demand). Once HBM2 supply is healthier then mid and small sized pascals will launch.
Big pascal taped out first,it could be in the market Q2 2016.
I don't remember reading that, in fact I distinctly remember the exact opposite with AMD fanboys like drunkenmasker swearing blind that AMD would be stupid to release a 4GB HBM Fiji, or course there would be 8GB cards available, look here is proof of 8Gb Fiji, yada yada, yada. While all the rumours and leaks were 4GB.
In the end the leaks and rumours were right, the realists were validated, and the dreamers changed their tune to 4GB is plenty.
You can clearly see how complex the HBM is to fab and why it liekly uses several different companies.
http://www.hpcwire.com/2015/07/29/amds-exascale-strategy-hinges-on-heterogeneity/
This looks a lot like the leak from Fudzilla recently. From the looks of it it seems they intend to build it on 14nm or similar, perhaps as soon as Zen/Arctic are ready.
This looks a lot like the leak from Fudzilla recently. From the looks of it it seems they intend to build it on 14nm or similar, perhaps as soon as Zen/Arctic are ready.
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Once again rewriting history. I said 4GB was perfectly understandable, I talked about how they could achieve 8GB and I also said I'd buy a 4GB version for cheaper if it was available as I have absolutely no need for it. I won't be playing 4k for at least another 2 years, 8GB is entirely irrelevant to me.
Too many people can't understand the simple difference between explaining HOW something might happening and instantly believing that person is saying it WOULD happen. I specifically on multiple occasions was one of the people saying 4GB was more likely and I categorically never once claimed AMD would be stupid to release a 4GB model. I'm one of the few people posting links throughout the past year insisting that more than 4GB is entirely unnecessary. I've also gone into detail about why a company has to release a product with a new type of memory that often has strengths AND weaknesses. You don't get HBM 2 without going through HBM 1, you don't get 8hi stacks without doing 4 hi stacks, you don't get volume or decreasing prices before someone makes a product with intention to ship so the memory maker actually starts production.
I swore blind AMD would be stupid to release with 4GB, lol, that literally couldn't be further from the truth. In fact almost no AMD guy said that at all, it was a running theme with every Nvidia guy in every thread.
Quantum may never make it to the market.
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Shocker. Damn shame, a nice concept for Steam OS etc
TSMC prepares for 16nm production.
SS Enters The HBM Market In 1H 2016.
Three new GPUs: Greenland, Baffin and Ellesmere.
Quantum may never make it to the market.
You have to ask yourself, why are they wasting time and resources on this, a product that will never see the light of day?
Isn't this in a nutshell everything that's wrong with AMD? Limited funds, but lack direction, and end up wasting resources on multiple dead-ends.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20150824PD205.html
AMD have orders with TSMC 16FF. Probably semi-custom business.
AMD have orders with TSMC 16FF. Probably semi-custom business.
TSMC growing its 16nm client base.
