The NVidia GV100 News Thread

Kaapstad · 21 Jun 2017 at 16:24

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11559...ces-pcie-tesla-v100-available-later-this-year

opethdisciple · 21 Jun 2017 at 18:04

What the expectation on Volta's release for us gamers?

AllBodies · 21 Jun 2017 at 18:23

opethdisciple said:
What the expectation on Volta's release for us gamers?

We don't really know.

What's likely is we get the 2080 (1080 replacement) in March next year. That's 1 year after the release of the 1080 Ti, and coincides with GDDR6 at 16 Gb/s availability, which would give 512 GB/s bandwidth on a 256-bit bus.

All lines up with the kinds of things Nvidia would be looking for in a gaming card.

The very shortest time between Nvidia releases tends to be 9 months, so that would be mid-December. But that's an odd time to launch a card.

So I think absolute earliest to expect a gaming card is CES 2018 in January, and a more 'normal' timeframe is March 2018.

Kaapstad · 21 Jun 2017 at 18:37

opethdisciple said:
What the expectation on Volta's release for us gamers?

Who knows

All I am doing with this thread is getting any interesting Volta news in one place so it is easy to keep track of. Where it leads for gaming we just don't know.

TheF34RChannel · 21 Jun 2017 at 20:19

Fun thread Kaap! I'll be silently reading here until we come to the GeForce stuff. Very impressed with it so far.

Samwell · 21 Jun 2017 at 22:35

opethdisciple said:
What the expectation on Volta's release for us gamers?

March 2018 new Titan, which fits to Hynix statements. Mid Year the corresponding Ti, as it can't come later this time because of 7nm. All other? Probably H1 2018.

TheF34RChannel · 22 Jun 2017 at 15:15

Samwell said:
March 2018 new Titan, which fits to Hynix statements. Mid Year the corresponding Ti, as it can't come later this time because of 7nm. All other? Probably H1 2018.

A Ti release so shortly after the initial release? Nah I don't believe that.

Samwell · 22 Jun 2017 at 15:24

TheF34RChannel said:
A Ti release so shortly after the initial release? Nah I don't believe that.

It will be the same as with GTX980Ti. Reason for the fast release wasn't Fury, but the timeframe till 1080 comes. Fury only influenced the price. Nvidia wants to have a return on investment and that's only possible if the Ti is ~1year on the market. It's useless to plan a product if the successor in 7nm comes in 6 month. So Ti will come again pretty fast, but as Nvidia probably won't have competition the price won't be nice.

TheF34RChannel · 23 Jun 2017 at 17:46

Samwell said:
It will be the same as with GTX980Ti. Reason for the fast release wasn't Fury, but the timeframe till 1080 comes. Fury only influenced the price. Nvidia wants to have a return on investment and that's only possible if the Ti is ~1year on the market. It's useless to plan a product if the successor in 7nm comes in 6 month. So Ti will come again pretty fast, but as Nvidia probably won't have competition the price won't be nice.

Not impossible, however I'll be in a skeptical standby mode until I see it happen. Hope you're right because I'd love me some Volta Ti sweetness and hope my current card is still worth something (a beer or two maybe) to partially finance it.

D.P. · 23 Jun 2017 at 18:39

Titan Volta is March, 2080 Q4 this year

TheF34RChannel · 23 Jun 2017 at 21:31

D.P. said:
Titan Volta is March, 2080 Q4 this year

Do you have a reliable source for that time frame or is merely expectations?

D.P. · 23 Jun 2017 at 21:41

TheF34RChannel said:
Do you have a reliable source for that time frame or is merely expectations?

We know SK Hynix is supplying GDDR6 for a GPU released in early 2018 over a 384bit interface giving 768GBps. That is a fact

We then can speculate That that is Titan Volta, the 2080 won't need that much BW at all and AMD won't be dropping HBM2. Since Nvidia will want to release the 2080 before the Titan it will likely come Q4 this year.

JediFragger · 23 Jun 2017 at 22:08

opethdisciple said:
What the expectation on Volta's release for us gamers?

26th March 2018 is the current guesstimate.

edit - Read the above and it makes sense, 2080 early w/GDDR5X and Titan in March with the GDDR6

TheF34RChannel · 23 Jun 2017 at 23:06

D.P. said:
We know SK Hynix is supplying GDDR6 for a GPU released in early 2018 over a 384bit interface giving 768GBps. That is a fact

We then can speculate That that is Titan Volta, the 2080 won't need that much BW at all and AMD won't be dropping HBM2. Since Nvidia will want to release the 2080 before the Titan it will likely come Q4 this year.

Excellent breakdown, thanks! Made time remember the Hynix news story. I too doubt a putative 2080 will have a 384 bit bus, 256 more likely, leaving the former for the titan part.

JediFragger said:
26th March 2018 is the current guesstimate.

edit - Read the above and it makes sense, 2080 early w/GDDR5X and Titan in March with the GDDR6

Nvidia will use GDDR6 from the get go I imagine. 5X was more of a bridging part.

JediFragger · 24 Jun 2017 at 10:28

TheF34RChannel said:
Nvidia will use GDDR6 from the get go I imagine. 5X was more of a bridging part.

Depends when the chips are ready tbh. If they can get them out of the door a couple of months early I don't think they'll mind using the X part.

TheF34RChannel · 24 Jun 2017 at 11:17

JediFragger said:
Depends when the chips are ready tbh. If they can get them out of the door a couple of months early I don't think they'll mind using the X part.

They won't mind indeed. The question then becomes, do they need to get them out of the door early? Not likely.

JediFragger · 24 Jun 2017 at 11:46

TheF34RChannel said:
They won't mind indeed. The question then becomes, do they need to get them out of the door early? Not likely.

Depends how much they want to smash AMDesperate I suppose

Simon Belmont · 24 Jun 2017 at 14:41

D.P. said:
Since Nvidia will want to release the 2080 before the Titan it will likely come Q4 this year.

I hope this comes true. Really looking forward to GTX2080.

r7slayer · 24 Jun 2017 at 15:01

How much does a wafer tend to cost to produce? One working GPU per wafer seems quite wasteful.

Rroff · 25 Jun 2017 at 15:02

r7slayer said:
How much does a wafer tend to cost to produce? One working GPU per wafer seems quite wasteful.

Anywhere from £2000 to £10,000 though that isn't the whole story of the costs involved dunno if they do it in this case but they might be using a mixture of techniques like putting different products on one wafer so that they will have some working stuff.