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Junglist said:
Eventually. Those guys were eventually great world champions. The didn’t walk into the sport as great champions but they left it that way.. maybe let’s see how Ben’s career plays out this was his 9/10th fight. He’s got an entire career to define him left to do.

Anyone who believed AJ’s ‘stay humble’ shtick is on them. AJ clearly always had an ego and that was easy to see when he was in the ring.

The only thing I’ve think Ben has done which was bang out of order was knocking that fans phone out of their hand. That was unacceptable and he deserved to get dragged over the coals for that. For mouthing off at the opposing trainer, who himself has said he’s a good guy, is not worth the vitriol he is getting online

Happy to agree to disagree:)
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Regarding the opposing trainers, listening to Ben Shalom, apparently they were quite vocal towards Ben W before the fight so I can sort of understand the reaction, especially given Ben's personality.
 
Usual shenanigans as the Eubank / Benn presser today. They've managed to hype this fight quite well and I've gone from a fairly dismissive view to a bloodlust driven interest.
Benn snr was bigging up how his son was destroying bona fide middleweights in sparring. Eubank snr seems to have pretty much disowned his son. It all adds to the narrative

I'm wondering is Eubank might miss the weight tomorrow. I wouldn't put it past him to pull something.

I've no idea what will happen in this fight. To me Eubank has stolen a living out of boxing having never fought anyone at world level and lost to anyone who was at the top of the British level. Benn hasn't really done anything and will always have to deal with the suspicion that he cheated. Really it's everything that's worst about boxing but I'm rubber necking with the best of them.

Hope Eubank gets smashed.
 
Had he been fighting anybody other than Benn then I too would have wanted him to get smashed but as much of a tit as he is, at least he's not a cheating scumbag like Benn. Even before the drugs fiasco, the only thing saving Benn from the criticism that Eubank gets was Eubank. Benn's just as big of a fraud (possibly even bigger) that's stolen a living thanks to his Dad's name.

Unless Eubank really is struggling to make the weight then it's hard to see anything other than a Eubank win. Benn's a bang average fighter and it's difficult to see how he can carry any power up to middleweight, particularly as in his last fight (at Welterweight?) he threw the kitchen sink at some nobody and couldn't put a dent in them. He wasn't on the eggs then though.
 
I think the key difference between them is Benn appears to be a prat both outside and inside the ring. While Eubank plays the bad guy in boxing and makes a lot of money from it, outside of boxing, everything I have seen shows him in a decent light.

Its already been said, but this is a cash grab for both of them for the reasons posted above. One potential redeeming thing, is that it could turn out to be a pub brawl like Furys early fights were on CH 5 - low on quality and high on entertainment value.
 
Yeah, not sure I'll bother watching it. It is a bit of a farce, a nothing fight. Only thing interesting about it is Eubank Jr. For all the stick he gets as a fighter, he does add something to the sport. And whilst I can't get on with cocky fighters (@Junglist ) Eubank Jr manages to find the balance well (apart from the egg slap - unless it was a stunt that both parties agreed to) and he is not afraid to speak his mind, he's one of the few people in the sport who can rattle the Hearns.
 
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I love Eubanks antics. He always an expert in ***********. “I’m just a guy in a KFC jacket trying to make a living” and “Scumbags”. He’s always gold. Outside of the ring.

He comes from money so money isn’t going to drive him to dance to a promoters tune as much as it would with someone who isn’t born into wealth.

I’m not going to pay for this fight as it’s a stupid cash in but I *hope* he batters Connor.
 
It's quite rare for the children of the big stars to do well isn't it? Especially in boxing, they just won't have the hunger, the desire deep down.
 
I can’t think of any boxers from big stars that made it. You get people like Tyson Fury and Floyd Mayweather Jr who’s fathers boxed but then for everyone of those you also get a Marvin Fraser or Chavez Jr lol.


Will be interesting to see if the love child of Kell Brook and Ebanie Bridges takes up fighting
 
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Calpol said:
I've no idea what will happen in this fight. To me Eubank has stolen a living out of boxing having never fought anyone at world level and lost to anyone who was at the top of the British level. Benn hasn't really done anything and will always have to deal with the suspicion that he cheated. Really it's everything that's worst about boxing but I'm rubber necking with the best of them.

Hope Eubank gets smashed.
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Thats a shrewd take and agree with all of that!
 
Calpol said:
I've no idea what will happen in this fight. To me Eubank has stolen a living out of boxing having never fought anyone at world level and lost to anyone who was at the top of the British level. Benn hasn't really done anything and will always have to deal with the suspicion that he cheated. Really it's everything that's worst about boxing but I'm rubber necking with the best of them.

Hope Eubank gets smashed.
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Are you saying George Groves, Billy Joe Saunders, Liam Smith, James DeGale and Arthur Abraham aren't world level fighters? He beat Smith, DeGale and Abraham. Lost against Saunders on a split and put up a good showing against Groves but ultimately lost. All world champions at some point.

He also won the British title against Blackwell. Smashed up Yildirim (who went onto fight Canelo), Williams and Szeremeta.

I'm not saying he's at the absolute elite level but to say he has stolen a living is a bit of a stretch no?

Benn couldn't even put a dent in Dobson and Orozco at 154 after being found with Clomafine in his system, what does that tell you.
 
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I think a better description of Eubank would be that he wasted his potential. He is clearly incredibly athletic but also hard headed and thinks he knows it all so borderline unteachable.

Out of the two though. I can’t back a juicer like Benn. If he admitted it but stopped the stupid front he’s putting on and treating the paying public like we’re idiots I’d ‘forgive’ him but the way the whole thing played out really put me off of him. I was a fan prior to that.
 
Robi said:
Are you saying George Groves, Billy Joe Saunders, Liam Smith, James DeGale and Arthur Abraham aren't world level fighters? He beat Smith, DeGale and Abraham. Lost against Saunders on a split and put up a good showing against Groves but ultimately lost. All world champions at some point.

He also won the British title against Blackwell. Smashed up Yildirim (who went onto fight Canelo), Williams and Szeremeta.

I'm not saying he's at the absolute elite level but to say he has stolen a living is a bit of a stretch no?

Benn couldn't even put a dent in Dobson and Orozco at 154 after being found with Clomafine in his system, what does that tell you.
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James De Gale was washed up and at the end of his career and it was five years ago. De Gale hasn't fought since.
He avenged a defeat by Liam Smith who arguably has the better resume.
Abraham is on paper his best win but his opponent was also on the decline, failed to make the weight twice and only fought once after that defeat.
His last fight was horrible despite a first round knockdown. Stolen might be harsh but I still think he has avoided taking anyone decent on in the last 5/6 years.

Show me his defining fight?

I said Benn was no better but he's younger and spent 2 years on the sidelines.
 
Let’s be honest neither have achieved anything of note. It’s a battle on nothing else but their father’s careers and names.

The result does nothing to the landscape of boxing. I just want Eubank to win because you just know he will be insufferable to Ben whereas I think if he lost he won’t care and will just go play poker with Neymar lol.

Still not going to pay for it and I doubt I’ll put much effort into finding a stream either.
 
Reason I say is because if it was a fixed amount he shouldn't have killed himself so much trying to get down that much and just accepted the fine. If it's x amount per lbs over then fair enough get as much off as possible but 375k for 1/20th of a lb...?!?
 
e36Adz said:
That's insane, he's over by 0.05 lbs!?! Was the fine a fixed amount or something?
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It is in the contract that Eubank signed

You have to remember though that these men have basically just won the lottery for a fight that will almost certainly get stopped prematurely by a jumpy nervous Ref who will look to call it off at the earliest possible opportunity
 
Just wondering if the contract had a fixed penalty because if so, and Eubank knew he was not making weight, you accept the fine and don't kill yourself surely? To be 0.05lbs away and still get fined that much is a massive double fail. I assumed the contract would have said x amount per lb over the limit but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
 
Robi said:
Are you saying George Groves, Billy Joe Saunders, Liam Smith, James DeGale and Arthur Abraham aren't world level fighters? He beat Smith, DeGale and Abraham. Lost against Saunders on a split and put up a good showing against Groves but ultimately lost. All world champions at some point.
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The problem you have with super-middleweight is its a fairly pants division historically and is quite new relative to other weight classes, so when I start hearing Liam Smith as world level its making me feel weird.
 
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