THE QUEEN OF ALL AIR COOLERS - Titan Amanda TEC Cooler

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Have any of you guys ever heard about this cooler or manufacturer?

First of all, I though the best air cooler around was the Titan Vanessa L-Type since it beats the so called sought after by overclockers, the Tuniq Tower 120.

http://tomshardware.co.uk/2005/06/07/10_mammoth_cpu_coolers/page27.html

But....I was wrong. Check this out:

http://www.tweak3d.net/reviews/Titan/Amanda/TECCooler/Content/

If the Titan Vanessa L-Type beats the Tuniq Tower 120 by only a small margin, where should the Titan Amanda that make the Titan Vanessa looks like a Hyundai chasing a Ferrari should stand among other air coolers??!!

Would love to see this cooler lurking around OcUK although its quite expensive but an enthusiast overclockers won't worry about breaking their bank.
 
Only a 50w TEC, I am suprised it can cool very well with the extra heat given off by that as well. Will wait for some more reviews but it looks good.
 
hardly seems to give any performance inc tbh, I'd have thought the TEC would realy help!

wouldn't it just be better to put a TEC on the processor and have the heatsink ontop
 
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Yeah, the TEC (thermo-electric cooler) @ peltier unit does the trick for this cooler to outperform other coolers. It is indeed a huge cooler but at least the height is not as high as other sky high heatsinks that can cause problem with certain casing (not able to close the side panel). But we should concern about its length as it seems that the casing rear fan might get in its way :D
 
jellybeard999 said:
that tec will add nothing whatsoever to the cooling ability - FACT - actually, it just adds to the heatload

would do better without the tec tbh
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Well I wouldn't say that. But you maybe right with the FACT that it will add nothing whatsover to the cooling ability and it just adds to the heat load if you are referring it to TEC coolers a couple of years ago. Older TEC coolers need an extreme power requirements and required an external power source which I agree this will just adds to the heat load. Furthermore, older TECs performance was good only when the processor was not loaded.

But lightning won't strike twice at the same place. A handful of companies will surely improve thier products and overcome the past problems with the TECs.

These are how Titan overcome the heat load issue:

*Use molex connector - no need for an external power supply.
*It also has a very clever design - PCI control card, which the cooler uses to control and power the integrated TEC - the control unit will automatically adjust the power input to the TEC just enough to keep the processor cool and not waste unnecessary power which can lead to excessive heat.

Below are some points from my opinions to tackle the "tec will add nothing whatsoever to the cooling ability - FACT":

*From the review, when the processor was loaded, overclocked or not, it seems that the cooler is trying to maintain the temperature at about 40 Celsius degrees. I wouldn't bet that it can maintain it by only using the 8 heatpipes without the TEC. Even the impressive Titan Vanessa can't maintain a constant temperature when the processor was loaded, overclocked or not.

Titan Vanessa (without TEC)
Loaded (stock) = 58 celcius degrees
Loaded (overclocked) = 64 celcius degress
(not a constant figure)

Titan Amanda (with TEC)
Loaded (stock) = 41 celcius degree
Loaded (overclocked) = 42 celcius degree
(constant figure)

IMO the TEC will surely add something to the cooling ability. Titan Amanda without the TEC will be just the same or slightly better than the Titan Vanessa.
 
I.....want......one.....of....those!!! :eek:

Will have to do a little more research if they ever release the details. I'm also surprised that they have achieved so much with a tiny little 60W pelt - but then I suspect that it's cooling the fins/pipes and not the chip directly (would definitely be overloaded if all the CPU heat was going through it!)

A fine idea though and those are some awesome results!
 
cavemanoc said:
I.....want......one.....of....those!!! :eek:

Will have to do a little more research if they ever release the details. I'm also surprised that they have achieved so much with a tiny little 60W pelt - but then I suspect that it's cooling the fins/pipes and not the chip directly (would definitely be overloaded if all the CPU heat was going through it!)

A fine idea though and those are some awesome results!
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The problem with these obscure coolers is where to buy them from, out of interest I surfed around to see what the price tag is but couldn't find a retailer. Great product with no distribution.
 
2bullish said:
The problem with these obscure coolers is where to buy them from, out of interest I surfed around to see what the price tag is but couldn't find a retailer. Great product with no distribution.
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Well it do have the same distribution problem just like the Tuniq Tower 120. But if you search for it on ebay, there are a couple of sellers that sell them from germany. The price tag would be around £60-£70 including shipping!!

I really hope that in the near future, OcUK can stock them or any other products from Titan just like they did with the Tuniq Tower 120.
 
This has probably been pushed forward time and time again ( Along with the Mini fridge pc )


Why not just stick a peltier to the top of a scythe ninja ?


I was considering trying it with my ninja, but i dont know how to power a pelt :(
 
aidileliea said:
Well it do have the same distribution problem just like the Tuniq Tower 120. But if you search for it on ebay, there are a couple of sellers that sell them from germany. The price tag would be around £60-£70 including shipping!!

I really hope that in the near future, OcUK can stock them or any other products from Titan just like they did with the Tuniq Tower 120.
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Funny I looked on the auction site and could not find this model.
 
Massive Attack said:
looks rubbish
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Yeah right...it does look rubbish for someone who needs a cpu cooler no higher than 100mm for a rubbish computer. :rolleyes: The cooler was not meant for non enthusiast who puts look before performance.
 
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Just to clarify the engineering behind this, I'll post a couple of my views on this cooler.

Normally Jellybeard would be 100% right. The math doesn't add up, if it's got a max of 60w at it's PEAK efficiency, then it simply will not cool 150w or thereabouts when you OC the cpu.

However, they've been quite clever about the design, and using heatpipes they've been able to make a nice little 'hybrid' cooler.

The heatpipes have allowed them to make the peltier an 'extra' source of cooling instead of the entire deal. If you put the pelt under the cooler directly on the cpu, it would do nothing, and actually worsen things because this particular pelt isn't capable of transferring the heat.

Instead, they have one set of heatpipes to a 'normal' air heat exchanger, and one set of heatpipes to the pelt driven heat exchanger. That means that when at idle, you just use the regular cooling, and when under load, the pelt fires up and cools the 'secondary' to keep loaded temps quite low.

It's really a good idea, and the performance results show how clever it really is.

I don't know if it's got the power for higher loads, but if the 'primary' air driven part of the cooler can handle 150-200w of heatload, then the pelt 'secondary' only needs to handle the 50 or so watts at a much lower temp to bring the overall heatsink temp, and therefore the cpu temp down by quite a bit.

There's nothing new or magical about this particular pelt, but the way they've combined regular and pelt cooling by using heatpipes is quite innovative indeed.

Cheers

Gray

Quick edit: After looking at the design, I realise that the pelt is actually at the bottom, acting on the cpu plate, and the heatpipes run through that to the top air cooler. Same idea as previously mentioned, but the design is different. The pelt does sit where it would 'normally' sit between the air cooler and heatsink (or waterblock for that matter) but the heatpipes themselves are 'bridging the gap' so that the air cooler can do most of the job, and the pelt can give it a cooling boost when needed.

Personally I think a 'twin chamber' air handler is potentially a better system, but this design is quite simple, and shows to still be quite effective.
 
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I can't understand the negative tone from some people in this thread :confused:

Wether you think the TEC is overloaded or not, this cooler is obviously working as a package.

Just look at the figures!!

Imagine this thing on a C2D :eek:


TaKeN said:
Why not just stick a peltier to the top of a scythe ninja?
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Why do that when this cooler would be considerably less effort and hastle, and quite clearly works well?

EDIT: Found a couple more reviews, pretty much the same conclusion, the performance is fantastic.
 
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