The Ryzen 5800 (non X) OEM has been 'stealth launched' for prebuilt PCs

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Article here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/280926/amd-launches-ryzen-9-5900-ryzen-7-5800-oem-processors

I would've been really tempted to buy this if it was available to buy a few weeks ago. It's basically the same CPU as a 5800X, but which a much lower TDP and only a slight reduction in all core clock, so it doesn't need to be paired with a cooler rated for 220w TDP (so a Noctua NH-U14S or greater).

Apparently, they are putting it into uber expensive Alienware prebuilt systems.

I'm just wondering if these will be available to buy anywhere, or will they only ever be found in prebuilt systems? Would be well priced at £350 or less.

I think the 5800 OEM would definitely beat any 8 core currently offered by Intel, except for the ridiculous 11900K in a few benchmarks.

 

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Apparently, it's possible to overclock these to speeds similar to the Ryzen 5800X at stock, so that would probably involve lifting the default power limits too.

I think the reason these haven't been sold as retail CPUs, is AMD can't / doesn't want to include a decent enough stock cooler to keep it under 80 degrees under load, at higher clock speeds. Inevitably, the Wraith Spire cooler (included with the Ryzen 5600X) would not cope with the higher core count (and power draw) of the 5800 OEM.

If sold with prebuilds, the CPU cooling is upto the company building it, they can afford to throw in a good cooler, or maybe not in some cases (beefy cooler won't fit in many systems) and just run it at a lower clock speed / power limit.

If the Ryzen 5600X couldn't be cooled with a stock cooler (this is debatable as the stock cooler can hit 90 degrees under load), it would've become a more premium product, with a lower clocked version being sold with a stock cooler.

 

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Wow, thats good, I wonder if they can all perform this well?

Doesn't make sense that they don't include a cooler with it, if so (but can afford to with the significantly cheaper 5600X).

On a review I looked at, they used a beefier Noctua NH-U14S to cool a 5800X, which kept it at 75 celsius at stock. Link here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x/20.html