The Sony WH1000xm4 Thread!

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Praz94 said:
Fair enough! I had only really tested them out once, but I do have to admit when it comes to comfort I think the Bose are still class leading. I havent tried the 700's, but if they're anything lik the QC 35 II's, then just wow
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The BOSE 700's arent even close to the QC 35's. BOSE screwed up, the comfort was one of the main selling points and they threw it out the door.

A friend of mine has QC35's and waited for the 700's to buy another pair. After trying them, he just bought another pair of QC35's
 
Grim5 said:
The BOSE 700's arent even close to the QC 35's. BOSE screwed up, the comfort was one of the main selling points and they threw it out the door.

A friend of mine has QC35's and waited for the 700's to buy another pair. After trying them, he just bought another pair of QC35's
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Strange, I did see some things saying how the QC 35's were more comfortable than the 700's and I was quite baffled. The comfort was one of the main reasons I like the 35's.
 
Hoping for it to be announced at CES!

Maybe a release date at some point in Feb/March if it is announced
 
Minsc said:
I've been monitoring google and twitter for any announcement
Obviously CES announcement is possible, to that end, this Sony Media day would probably be the event to keep an eye on:
https://www.ces.tech/event/630215.aspx

You can watch the event live here on Jan 6:
https://www.sony.com/electronics/ces
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They do tend to usually show the product soon after its confirmed on the FCC, so the timing could be perfect for CES.

Hope Sony show a lot on the xm4's and not just ps5 hype
 
Some leaks for the upcoming wh1000xm4's!
Not sure how true these are but it shows good signs if true (in some points anyway)

https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/6/21167586/sony-wh1000xm4-photos-long-battery

General breakdown of the leaks:

1) bluetooth 5.0 instead of 4.2
2) Better battery life
3) lower power consumption
4) design almost identical
5) voice assistant

I do hope they add multidevice connectivity as thats definitely the most important thing for me. Also a bonus if they improve the mic quality.
 
Praz94 said:
Some leaks for the upcoming wh1000xm4's!
Not sure how true these are but it shows good signs if true (in some points anyway)

https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/6/21167586/sony-wh1000xm4-photos-long-battery

General breakdown of the leaks:

1) bluetooth 5.0 instead of 4.2
2) Better battery life
3) lower power consumption
4) design almost identical
5) voice assistant

I do hope they add multidevice connectivity as thats definitely the most important thing for me. Also a bonus if they improve the mic quality.
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I hope Sony drops their typical house sound and adds a more forward sounding signature, or use a driver that responds well to manual adjustments via software. XM3 responds well in the lower frequencies but not very well over the mids. The highs are crisp and the bass overall was good but they need to tighten it up, it was too sloppy.

Those adjustment would make the XM4 amazing, first company that can do Amiron wireless sound with more BASS will get my money.
 
AMDPower said:
I hope Sony drops their typical house sound and adds a more forward sounding signature, or use a driver that responds well to manual adjustments via software. XM3 responds well in the lower frequencies but not very well over the mids. The highs are crisp and the bass overall was good but they need to tighten it up, it was too sloppy.

Those adjustment would make the XM4 amazing, first company that can do Amiron wireless sound with more BASS will get my money.
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I never used the XM3's (as I was waiting for the xm4's...) but I heard they were pretty much best in class when it came to audio quality!

I don't expect sony to go backwards, so can only assume the quality will improve, or worst case scenario stays the same.. Just need a release date now as I have been waiting for these for ages now
 
Praz94 said:
I never used the XM3's (as I was waiting for the xm4's...) but I heard they were pretty much best in class when it came to audio quality!

I don't expect sony to go backwards, so can only assume the quality will improve, or worst case scenario stays the same.. Just need a release date now as I have been waiting for these for ages now
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Best in class in terms of ANC yes.

Sound quality then no. They sound good but not great.

If you want great sounding headphones then they have to be open but that makes for a terrible idea for portable headphones.

So they might be best in class in terms of portable and ANC however i think Audeze have just made something along those lines and it would smash it in terms of sound quality probably not in ANC terms though.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Best in class in terms of ANC yes.

Sound quality then no. They sound good but not great.

If you want great sounding headphones then they have to be open but that makes for a terrible idea for portable headphones.

So they might be best in class in terms of portable and ANC however i think Audeze have just made something along those lines and it would smash it in terms of sound quality probably not in ANC terms though.
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Ah yeah that makes sense. But I heard that even among other ANC headphone competitors like the Bose for example, that they are still the best.

For the price point purely based on sound where nothing else matters, then im sure there are definitely better options
 
I concur,

Sony are some of the best in terms of sound for ANC headphones, automatically you give up two things in terms of sound quality with ANC.

In terms of sound quality wireless then i would say right now the Amiron wireless is the beset i have heard so far, they do need to be modded for greater bass, even then the bass is still lacking and i would not suggest them for hiphop, r&b, house and things like that. But sound great for vocals and some classical tracks and instruments like guitar.

I have not heard the new auzede wireless but did try their mobius wireless and it sounded quite good but over Bluetooth you loose a lot of sound quality in my opinion and some things sound nasally. I did try different preset with them but i just did not like the sound over Bluetooth much. Maybe i had a bad pair. Wired they sounded better and also the Amiron also sounded better too wired, more punchy and clarity was better.

The Amiron sound much better than the sony and the price difference really does show but they are not ANC and not practical for taking out even though sound bleed is near nothing and they both closed back.

I still think bluetooth technology has few more years before they can match the sound quality of a mid ranged wired setup. Definitely improved a lot over the last few years.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Best in class in terms of ANC yes.

Sound quality then no. They sound good but not great.

If you want great sounding headphones then they have to be open but that makes for a terrible idea for portable headphones.

So they might be best in class in terms of portable and ANC however i think Audeze have just made something along those lines and it would smash it in terms of sound quality probably not in ANC terms though.
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comon now you can't start comparing open back to noise cancelling cans, totally different kettle of fish and not related at all.
 
AMDPower said:
I still think bluetooth technology has few more years before they can match the sound quality of a mid ranged wired setup. Definitely improved a lot over the last few years.
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I was hoping the XM4s would be just the ticket after hearing how good Sony sound quality is over on head-fis it gets constant praise so it's a bit disappointing to hear it's not quite translated to the wireless XM3s or perhaps 4s. Perhaps does not help I have always felt wired is wired it's hard to topple really.

I currently have the wired Audio technica MSR7bs, a very good mid end closed back headphones (£200+) and will be keeping them in fact sold off my AKG K550s but it does not sound like I would benefit from going Wireless or with Sony XM4s.
 
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