The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2

[gpuerrilla]

How long after the sticker badged reference models will the AIB get their own flavours out?

 

[michty_me]

How long after the sticker badged reference models will the AIB get their own flavours out?

I had read a tweet posted on Reddit stating a few days after. Can't remember where that came from.

 

[Bazippy]

I had read a tweet posted on Reddit stating a few days after. Can't remember where that came from.

I hope that's right. Absolutely the best idea for amd at this point. The market is crying out to purchase gpus so get them out as quick as possible.

 

[michty_me]

I hope that's right. Absolutely the best idea for amd at this point. The market is crying out to purchase gpus so get them out as quick as possible.

Yeah it would be good to see and read some reviews of them all.

 

[smogsy]

Yeah I’ve just got a cx model with the 4 hdmi 120hz outputs, it really is an amazing tv ! Can’t wait to hook up the ps5 and 3080

I know it’s a bit off topic but anyone know if the 3080 will support Dolby atmos? Got a Sonos arc and it would be sweet for cyberpunk!

If it doesn't just use optical. TV will process it then

 

[Wilko_Dog]

If it doesn't just use optical. TV will process it then

the arc uses hdmi plugged directly into the tv? The Xbox one x supports it so fingers crossed the 3080 will

 

[alec]

So is the fastest card AMD do, 6900xt or whatever it's called around 70% faster than my 1080 ti ?

Take a guess

No need to guess. Look at 3080 benchmarks and add 5%. Or 3090 benchmarks and subtract 4%.

 

[JCLDJB]

Question for you guys, what do you all think of this?

AMD's 'Smart Access Memory' with the fact the new CPUs offer PCI-E Gen4 ?

For some reason I thought about this and wondered whether or not, thanks to PCI-E Gen4, and this new feature...they could probably do something pretty amazing.

I dunno...maybe I'm missing some key element that makes this point moot..like the new line-up simply not having enough bandwidth to saturate PCI-E Gen3 yet...

What are your thoughts?

 

[gpuerrilla]

AMD have mapped out for the next two iterations already. By working with the CPU ryzen engineers they have now got the niche advantage which is the heterogeneous stuff they shared years ago alongside the APU. Bringing the technologies together they can leap another notch forward especially if they get the mindshare scalp of the gaming community. They only need to win some of the intel and nvidia monopoly and it could be very dangerous to them.

 

[Phate]

Question for you guys, what do you all think of this?

AMD's 'Smart Access Memory' with the fact the new CPUs offer PCI-E Gen4 ?

For some reason I thought about this and wondered whether or not, thanks to PCI-E Gen4, and this new feature...they could probably do something pretty amazing.

I dunno...maybe I'm missing some key element that makes this point moot..like the new line-up simply not having enough bandwidth to saturate PCI-E Gen3 yet...

What are your thoughts?

I think its very interesting and really like the idea of them developing this further to see what it could achieve. I like the idea of the ecosystem and it being a good selling point "go team red and you get this extra reward for doing so"

Its cool!

With regards to pci saturation, no idea. I know the GPUs themselves don't saturate it but maybe the the PCIE4.0 genuinely needs the extra bandwidth to do what its doing, at speed as well?

Very interesting and can't wait to see where it goes.

 

[Grim5]

Rx6000 vs Rtx3000 ray tracing by my name is

 

[Grim5]

Yeah I’ve just got a cx model with the 4 hdmi 120hz outputs, it really is an amazing tv ! Can’t wait to hook up the ps5 and 3080

I know it’s a bit off topic but anyone know if the 3080 will support Dolby atmos? Got a Sonos arc and it would be sweet for cyberpunk!

It should, you should see an option in windows sound settings for Atmos output as long as the receiver (your soundbar) supports it and your TV has Atmos pass through

Im planning to get an arc myself once they add the lpcm update but I don't have it yet so can't test it for you

 

[Apache14]

According to one of the Linux kernel Devs for the AMD drivers Smart Access Memory is based around the ability to resize PCIE BAR (this isn't new see : https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/display/resizable-bar-support)

Now the size you can remap is dependent on the platform, I would assume AMD has pushed for this in Zen3 so you can fully address the 16GB within the RDNA2 GPUs.

RDNA2 could well benefit more from this than other architectures but Nvidia could make the same type of optimization for Zen3 platforms

* Forum post from the AMD kernel Dev : https://www.phoronix.com/forums/for...e-amd-radeon-rx-6000-series/page4#post1215694

 

[Vakas]

I've not read the entire thread and this has probably been asked would you got for a 3080 or 6800xt

Also what are AMD drivers like these days I had to switch back a few years ago to Nvidia as the drivers were so buggy

 

[Blackjack Davy]

Reposting this again from earlier, my thoughts on AMD partners

Having used AMD cards for a few generations now i personally rate them thus

Sapphire - #1 Partner, they are like the EVGA of AMD Cards (minus the stepup program) Their cards are generally the best built, Dual Bios, Awesome coolers, nice aesthetics and decently OC'd, there are rumors of a Toxic edition which is traditionally Sapphires highest end cards (alongside Vapor-X)

Powercolor - I am running a Powercolor Red Devil, nice looking, really good overclock on it out of the box and the cooler is second to none, another really good partner, no dual bios though.

XFX - Can be a bit hit and miss, id steer clear of their cheaper stuff as the cooling isnt always that great and they can be loud.

Asrock - New to the party, ive not read brilliant things about them, but ive not used them personally except for my X570 Taichi which has been superb

HIS - Rarely we see a HIS Card, they are often marmite designs you either love or hate, they generally perform ok though for the money.

Gigabyte - Pretty garbage tier really, i dont think they bother too much with Radeon cards, or it seems they dont, coolers are often poorly designed.

MSI - Utter garbage company, had 2 x 290X Gaming X cards and returned them as they were not fit for purpose, backplates got stupidly hot, plus MSI ethics leave a lot to be desired.

Asus - Tripe for AMD cards, utter tripe, no one can forget them prizing an Nvidia cooler onto an AMD card, and you have to pay the glorious Asus tax for that privilege, id steer clear of their stuff unless you are a ROG Drone and absolutely must have their dross ;l)

Huh. Just goes to show how much of this comes down to personal experiences. I've had MSI Twin Frozr cards for R9 390 and liked it so much got the same for a 1080ti had zero issues with them, I've currently got a MSI Ventus right now and while its not the prettiest card its perfectly functional I've no complaints with it.

Other than that I've got a Sapphire Nitro RX480 on the other PC and its very nice design feels solid classy no complaints there either.

Gigabyte I will agree with had an R9 290 windforce card and it felt flimsy and cheap and and even sagged as it didn't have a backplate, it was a b-grade card that blew its vram after a few months the RMA was awful waited an entire month for a replacement that also turned out to be faulty but in a different way, never had another gigabyte card since.

 

[Grim5]

According to one of the Linux kernel Devs for the AMD drivers Smart Access Memory is based around the ability to resize PCIE BAR (this isn't new see : https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/display/resizable-bar-support)

Now the size you can remap is dependent on the platform, I would assume AMD has pushed for this in Zen3 so you can fully address the 16GB within the RDNA2 GPUs.

RDNA2 could well benefit more from this than other architectures but Nvidia could make the same type of optimization for Zen3 platforms

* Forum post from the AMD kernel Dev : https://www.phoronix.com/forums/for...e-amd-radeon-rx-6000-series/page4#post1215694

Yeah nothing about SAM seems to be out of reach, I don't see why Nvidia cannot enable a similiar/same feature. And for RAGE, Nvidia has a similar one button overclock but its not built into the driver and instead into afterburner.

 

[Lokken86]

I've not read the entire thread and this has probably been asked would you got for a 3080 or 6800xt

Also what are AMD drivers like these days I had to switch back a few years ago to Nvidia as the drivers were so buggy

6800xt is looking good but hang on for the reviews.

 

[gpuerrilla]

And for RAGE, Nvidia has a similar one button overclock but its not built into the driver and instead into afterburner.

So its not nvidias then its a third party feature?

 

[Grim5]

So its not nvidias then its a third party feature?

Nvidia created the algorithm called "Nvidia OC Scanner", it can be embedded into any third party app and is found in multiple

for example https://www.msi.com/blog/get-a-free-performance-boost-with-afterburner-oc-scanner

 

[FxUK]

So its not nvidias then its a third party feature?

It also exists as an experimental feature in GeForce Experience:
With experimental enabled, Alt + Z > Performance

Spoiler: Screenshot