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Bit weird how AMD let nVidia completely off the hook at the $499 pricepoint even if the 6800 does perform better, 3070 demand is gonna be *crazy* now.
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Bit weird how AMD let nVidia completely off the hook at the $499 pricepoint even if the 6800 does perform better, 3070 demand is gonna be *crazy* now.
Apparently the original reposter is wrong? Its all in chinese so people take his word for it, this guys says the chinese next report otherwise
https://twitter.com/Vaylion/status/1322566328838844416
Would that not be where the lower stack comes in? Navi 22/23?
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For me its a dodo being bested by 2080Ti (after it was said to be better) and having the regular DDR. For the MSRP its pretty good value but its going to be beaten comfortably by the 6800. Whats laughable is people paying for the premium flavours like ROG at same price you can pickup a 3080, that makes zero sense.
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Yeah but they are probably months off, and by that time nVidia would have gotten their act together and sold 3070 by the millions.
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Tbh the whole thing could be fake. I still expect nvidia to have the upper hand in RT especially in games past. Games developed with AMD's RT cards might show stronger performance though. Guess we will see what's what for real soon enough in games already designed for RTX. After that we will have to wait and see in games that AMD have been involved with.
the problem is it looks like the 6800 trades with the 3070 but is more expensive. If AMD slot another card underneath it would have to perform almost as good as the 6800 but be a lot cheaper.
They could in theory possibly release a gpu with the performance close to the 6800 but without any RT support (unlikely). But whatever they do now it will be too late anyway as most people will have made their decision on the 3070.
For me the 6800 was priced a bit strange unless they are confident it will also compete with the 3080.
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They don't look like they are trading though. The 6800 looks to be a good bit faster and has 16gb vram. This is going by AMD's released benchmarks and i most likely believe them as AMD priced the 6800 above. If it was not a good bit faster i doubt it would be priced so high.
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They will crank up navi 22 to get near it. If you want something better get the 6800. Lets be honest, most mindshare folk will buy nvidia anyways.. AMD know this know and have gone their own way and I think they need to do this instead of trying to convince the old fashioned route.
sure, people want to see that but on this forum, if the 5000 series of CPU's are truly 15% faster IPC, i can't see many people caring how fast it is with it turned off.
Rumour has it that humbug is sticking with nvidia.. 2070S
Had a feeling that you was not impressed by AMD’s pricing.
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Play the nvidia lottery to get hold of a 3080FE then flog on fleabay for twice what you paid for it, use profit to buy 6800
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Play the nvidia lottery to get hold of a 3080FE then flog on fleabay for twice what you paid for it, use profit to buy 6800
Do same with the 3070, they seem to be out of stock too.
I think AMD really needed to price the 6800 at $500 the 6800XT at $600 and 6900XT at $700 if they really wanted to shake up the Gpu market but instead they seem to have followed nvidia's pricing structure.
None of the cards offer either significant performance gains or much cheaper prices over what nvidia currently offers with the exception of the 6900XT although @1k this is still poor value for the performance offered its just that nvidia is even worse.
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I'd be annoyed if the reviewers tested it with a 10900k or something.
For some reason I thought they were closer.(I know nothing is confirmed until cards get reviewed)That said they are still missing a sub £500 card to compete with the 3070 on price. They've sandwiched the 3080 with 6800 and 6800xt instead.
Ideally they would have to test with both especially if the 10900K still ends up being faster for nvidia Gpus which can use the SAM.
If they just use the 5950x, assuming it is indeed the fastest cpu, then they can just disable SAM for a second run. They'd also have to re test all the Nvidia cards using the 5950x too for a fair comparison and not reuse the older results.
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