The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2

[Poneros]

WOW! Look at the frametime graphs, Nvidia's are a MESS! I imagine we'll see this keep repeating in newer & newer games esp. as the 10 GB limit starts to choke the card.

 

[KentMan]

Interesting train of thought. Especially because it loses AC Odyssey but wins in Valhalla.

Does lose in WD Legion though, but this is an Nvidia/RTX title.

Yep, interestingly though in AC Odyssey it does better in 4k than the 3080 i think, according to HU video review.. anyhow, newer titles it seems to be really pulling ahead, and not by a little either.. another 2 are Gears of War and Forza 4, both of these are Microsoft Titles, UWP titles if i recall, it really seems to like AMD architecture.

 

[LtMatt]

Tell you what, i just came from the Gamers Nexus review and thought it was pretty mediocre, also with problematic things like Minecraft, overall he seemed pretty down on the card and his slides didn't show it in a great light.

So now i'm half way through Hardware Unboxed and it looks much much better.

The difference is Gamers Nexus used old or ageing games while Hardware Unboxed used the latest titles, funny how one review can give the impression the cards are a bit too mediocre, while not bad they are a letdown, and the next review they look really good, all because one used old games and the other didn't.

Yep felt the same. HUB becoming one of the best.

I really hope they start using the 5950X, with SAM in future comparisons for all gaming benchmarks, because that will see the 6800 XT move up 5-10% in performance.

There really is no reason not to as the 3950X is bottlenecking in a few games at lower resolutions.

 

[kevman]

Overall i think AMD really smashed it here, the one thing that soured this launch is stock, AMD never ever ever have a perfect launch, but if lack of stock is the worst thing,

I think the AMD launch has been good but they desperately need more stock to gain market share on Nvidia. All the cards a gonna be quite close so the company with the most stock out there will win the day.

 

[LtMatt]

WOW! Look at the frametime graphs, Nvidia's are a MESS! I imagine we'll see this keep repeating in newer & newer games esp. as the 10 GB limit starts to choke the card.

Very nice!

Reviewers must start using Ryzen 5000 CPUs though, shame to use a PCI-E 3.0 CPU with 4.0 capable GPUs imo.

 

[humbug]

Yeah i don't get why people would expect AMD's first go at RT to be better or as good as Nvidia's second go at it, we all knew it was not going to be as good as Ampere, come on... its as good in Rasterization performance, and they have more than the "bare minimum" VRam, unlike Nvidia which people will quickly find is not even enough to be bare minimum.

If you want RTX get the Nvidia cards, if you're not too worried about getting the best performance there and are more worried about having to tweak your graphics settings in the not at all distant future because your card doesn't have enough VRam to support all the eye candy get the AMD cards.

 

[kevman]

Yep felt the same. HUB becoming one of the best.

I really hope they start using the 5950X, with SAM in future comparisons for all gaming benchmarks, because that will see the 6800 XT move up 5-10% in performance.

There really is no reason not to as the 3950X is bottlenecking in a few games at lower resolutions.

This is where reviews get tricky - if your using SAM on AMD then you must use DLSS on NV + ray tracing otherwise its not apples to apples. I think the only way to properly compare cards is with no proprietary features

 

[willhub]

Doesn't seem like a 6800xt was a good move from a 3080FE in the end

 

[Stu999]

Seem like decent cards, may try to get a 6800 for my nephew as he wants to build a PC (I’m already donating him some parts). Both cards trade blows with their Nvidia counterparts and the XT even beats the 3090 at 1440p in some games.

Shame about the paper launch.

Hardware Canucks have got both 6800 and 6800XT numbers and test with a 5950X:

 

[NathG79]

Refreshing the AMD graphics card section from 1.50pm onwards on my phone
Forum open on ipad. Forum crashed. Keep on refreshing.
Finally get back onto Forum at 2.35pm to see the link and "go go guys"
Managed to get on the "true" link around 2.38pm..and hey presto "pre order!!!".
Thoroughly disappointed. Will wait and see what happens with the AIB "pre order" launch on the 25th. Will probably be the same shower of ****..

 

[LtMatt]

This is where reviews get tricky - if your using SAM on AMD then you must use DLSS on NV + ray tracing otherwise its not apples to apples. I think the only way to properly compare cards is with no proprietary features

Even if SAM is kept disabled, they should still be using the fastest gaming CPU money can buy the 5950x imo.

 

[zx128k]

6800xt is far slower than the 3080. RTX 3080 is faster at 4k because of faster memory and DXR games massively faster as the RT cores are far better.

 

[KentMan]

Yep felt the same. HUB becoming one of the best.

I really hope they start using the 5950X, with SAM in future comparisons for all gaming benchmarks, because that will see the 6800 XT move up 5-10% in performance.

There really is no reason not to as the 3950X is bottlenecking in a few games at lower resolutions.

Matt im pretty sure Steve @ HU said they are retesting with either the 5900x or the 5950x in due course, and trying out SAM and Ragemode etc... im still waiting to pickup a 5900x, and will be getting either the Sapphire Nitro+ SE or the Red Devil 6800XT to pair it with, once that happens i'll tune my ram and go to war on the benchmark threads got 4x8 stick of 3600mhz c16 Trident Z to tune up.

Watched a really decent video yesterday, a guy with a 5800x vs Intel 10th Gen tuning mem, definitely worth a watch.

 

[Chrisc]

6800xt is far slower than the 3080.

Are you on drugs?

 

[humbug]

People will be playing games of all types though. You have to take them all as a whole and base it on that. It also seems a stretch to call games like RDR2, Control and Horizon old as well. The new games being used will have less appeal outside of Valhalla and even that has been hit with the crap bat in some reviews.

Its more than 2 years old. yes its an ageing game.

 

[willhub]

Hopefully the 3000 series gets SAM going

 

[Goosey91]

have cancelled my order with OCUK, im in no real rush for mine as my current system is ticking along nicely and my new build im waiting for black friday dealz, and if i can save money by getting them somewhere else for the same card then even better. after watching some of the initial reviews, i feel it's the right move for now. Need to get 5000 series processor first whenever they sort out their supply!

 

[clv101]

I can see


I know and so many people have been scrambling for the 3070s - for me thats the worst card of the lot and for £500+?

I thought the 3070 was looking like best value for decent 1440p, without the totally crazy power draw of the 3080.

 

[LtMatt]

Matt im pretty sure Steve @ HU said they are retesting with either the 5900x or the 5950x in due course, and trying out SAM and Ragemode etc... im still waiting to pickup a 5900x, and will be getting either the Sapphire Nitro+ SE or the Red Devil 6800XT to pair it with, once that happens i'll tune my ram and go to war on the benchmark threads got 4x8 stick of 3600mhz c16 Trident Z to tune up.

Watched a really decent video yesterday, a guy with a 5800x vs Intel 10th Gen tuning mem, definitely worth a watch.

Good stuff, Rage Mode (+25% power limit increase) and SAM, and i bet the 6800 XT will be 10% better across the board.

 

[XeNoNF50]

6800xt is far slower than the 3080. RTX 3080 is faster at 4k because of faster memory and DXR games massively faster as the RT cores are far better.

They're about the same it seems. 3080 slightly better at 4k & RT but 6800xt clearly ahead at 1080p and a bit ahead at 1440p.