The Top 7... PR disasters

The thread is about the PR disaster that has been the PS3 launch, he's in the right place with the comments he is making. Deal with it and move on, the PR has been a major disaster as there are a lot of agrieved people out there. The gaming launch line-up isn't all that and with Sony being last to the starting line you might've thought they'd have tried something special. Personally I don't care either way, at the moment it does fit my needs so I'm buying one. For people who were looking top buy it solely as a games machine I can see why they're a bit miffed.
 
Rojin said:
For £300 they would no doubt fly off the shelf, I wonder how much loss they are making on each unit now though? I bought an Xbox on launch day when they were £399, they did drop the price though and I got 2 games and a controller from MS. Perhaps Sony will follow suit (doubtful)? I like my films and basically for the price of a standalone BR player I have a 360 with HD-DVD drive and a PS3, looks like a bargain to me! A few BR players have dropped in price of late though (discontinued models), hopefully not too long before we get a dual format player and I'll probably dump one of the consoles when that happens.
Sony can't afford to do that!
 
Kreeeee said:
Sony can't afford to do that!

I know, it was in response the the Mr Latte post (#34). Hence my "I wonder how much loss they are making on each unit now though?" statement. They must be losing loads now so I can't see any price drop in the near future.
 
The little kids are now cracking up...

Im not out to make friends with anyone or lick upto my PS3 buddies for backup. This is a forum, if you dont agree dont agree if your fed up with something then ignore it.
The people arnt estatic about the PS3 will always continue to be here, thats still no excuse for you in particular ElRazur to determine what is deemed ok to talk about and what isnt.
Joebob once again you take the whole thing towards a personal attack on you. The only part regarding you was as you cant deny is slagging MS for their OS and publicly stating in the past your anti microsoft.
Thats fine thats your decision but it automatically makes you biased in such debates.

I dont stoop to the low levels or personal abuse or like your buddy ElRazur has now done with silly threads.
 
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Mr Latte said:
Joebob once again you take the whole thing towards a personal attack on you. The only part regarding you was as you cant deny is slagging MS for their OS and publicly stating in the past your anti microsoft.
Thats fine thats your decision but it automatically makes you biased in such debates.
Knew I would get you to bite :D think back to before Xmas, I'm never gonna let you live that one down :p

The difference between me and you is that even though I dont like MS as a company, once I had my say I let it be.
 
Ahh so you still holding a grudge, its good to let it out honest.

I dont mind anyone having a favourite system. I wont stand for anyone like ELRazur branding an unproven system as the best thing since sliced bread and disregarding what any other peoples views are on it. Anyone that doesnt agree hes slagging them on personal level just because he or others went out and got an import to show off with.

Instead i judge each system on what it accomplishes or has available to play.
People opinions always differ but facts are facts and some of the PS3 fanboys here seem to overlook facts.

Its too early for me to get a PS3 or Wii yet as unlike some i wont just rush out and get a system with no games on it that i deem worthy as yet to purchase that system for.

Can i point out you look and see how many people have bought a wii and now have or are trying to sell it. Hype caught hold of them and now they discovered after the limited play they got from the games they bought that the system is currently seeing a rather dry spell on the release schedule.

Ill argue blind with anyone that states what the PS3 is going to become, instead i look at what its got going for it not what its possibly going to have tomorrow. If i disagree with their opinion and they disagree with mine thats freedom of speech and the luxury we have that OcUK even tolerate it on these boards.

We should however strive to make it less silly and childish.
As for taking it personal you need to talk to ElRazur about that, hes got a bit of a temper and spoilt little kid attitude, that last stunt was pathetic.
 
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Mr Latte said:
Ahh so you still holding a grudge, its good to let it out honest.

I dont mind anyone having a favourite system. I wont stand for anyone like ELRazur branding an unproven system as the best thing since sliced bread and disregarding what any other peoples views are on it. Anyone that doesnt agree hes slagging them on personal level just because he or others went out and got an import to show off with.

Instead i judge each system on what it accomplishes or has available to play.
People opinions always differ but facts are facts and some of the PS3 fanboys here seem to overlook facts.

Its too early for me to get a PS3 or Wii yet as unlike some i wont just rush out and get a system with no games on it that i deem worthy as yet to purchase that system for.

Can i point out you look and see how many people have bought a wii and now have or are trying to sell it. Hype caught hold of them and now they discovered after the limited play they got from the games they bought that the system is currently seeing a rather dry spell on the release schedule.

Ill argue blind with anyone that states what the PS3 is going to become, instead i look at what its got going for it not what its possibly going to have tomorrow. If i disagree with their opinion and they disagree with mine thats freedom of speech and the luxury we have that OcUK even tolerate it on these boards.

We should however strive to make it less silly and childish.

I'd just like to point out that El suggested someone get a 360 in another thread. He may be a fanboy but you do get honesty out of him. (At times ;) )
 
Mr Latte said:
I dont stoop to the low levels or personal abuse or like your buddy ElRazur has now done with silly threads.

You dont understand....or perhaps you do and try to play the victim here. Your posts are always the same old song and all i did was paid you in your own coins.

Do you see me in 360 thread acting like you? NO. I could be if i wanna but it aint needed.
 
Robert said:
Most 360 games are £40 now - even cheaper in some cases.
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I was quoting RRP (usually £45-50) on release day

Robert said:
Oh and regarding the minority comment - is this why most shops in my town centre have every inch of their windows devoted to "WE CAN GUARANTEE A PS3 FOR LAUNCH DAY" - this doesn't seem like we are in the minority at all to me.
No it means that 180,000 of the 220,000 available in the UK have reputedly been sold - so there are 40,000 in excess to anyone who wants one.

Nothing more nothing less
 
Mr Latte said:
OcUK even tolerate it on these boards.

No THAT'S a funny line! Nice one chap. Didn't like the personality bites and the "I'm richer than thou" bits so I'm gonna try and stick to topic.

Yes, Sony's PR has been abysmal at best, yes they are "expecting" people to buy a PS3 on the back of brand loyalty and yes, the PS3 is a very high price if all people want is a new games machine.....

but I still want one, I can afford one and I can justify the price to myself as I want HD. So I guess it boils down to justification really? Complaining about the price will not change things so maybe a 360 or Wii is a better choice for pure "gamers" only?

With the tech-savvy people on this forum I would have expected a large proportion to want the next HD video sources but I am surprised that this is not the case.

Also, without a HIGH CAPACITY drive as stock, I can honestly see the future is bright for PS3. It harks back to a feature in Sinclair User about "never being able to fill a CD's 650Mb capacity for a game so why not stick to floppies" scenario.

Better sound, more textures, bigger levels etc etc. Surely it must be the future?
 
ElRazur said:
You dont understand....or perhaps you do and try to play the victim here. Your posts are always the same old song and all i did was paid you in your own coins.

Do you see me in 360 thread acting like you? NO. I could be if i wanna but it aint needed.

"A victim" is someone that has been attacked, yes then i am a victim if concerning you and your personal abuse. I dont have to play a victim your good enough at making me one. This coming from the guy that recently started a thread to mock me?

"Song and dance" then dont listen to the record, you do not police these forums or have any rights over any other poster.

All due respect this thread was discussing Sony and its PR am i out of place talking about it or mentioning i dont agree with other including your opinion regarding the system.

In many threads you have shown your PS3 love, even the "Xbox 360 show your system thread". Sure you make it look like a joke sometimes but you still like to show your love for your favourite system. Is it fair to assume your well known for your fanboy remarks regarding PS3?
 
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REDD555 said:
Also, without a HIGH CAPACITY drive as stock, I can honestly see the future is bright for PS3. It harks back to a feature in Sinclair User about "never being able to fill a CD's 650Mb capacity for a game so why not stick to floppies" scenario.

Better sound, more textures, bigger levels etc etc. Surely it must be the future?

When games get ridiculously big and are on more than 3 or 4 dvds and the disk swapping is constant and a detriment to the gameplay, then I will agree to this point.
 
Mr Latte said:

Seriously STFU. I wont have anymore part in this. But remember this, when next you talk your usuals in any of my thread or quote me i would respond like this and accordingly, so please...I beg you, best ignore me because im fed up of your rants. I dont police this forums...no need. If you seriously dont see what you are doing then no need debating with you.
 
ElRazur said:
Seriously STFU. I wont have anymore part in this. But remember this, when next you talk your usuals in any of my thread or quote me i would respond like this and accordingly, so please...I beg you, best ignore me because im fed up of your rants. I dont police this forums...no need. If you seriously dont see what you are doing then no need debating with you.

Once again can i point out the temper tantrums for others to witness.
More abuse is that....
Your threads, so when you start a thread ITS YOUR THREAD, then i suppose YOUR rules?

Forums are for discussion and debate not for slandering others ElRazur
I hope people look back over the last few posts and see where i have attacked you because i have only disagreed with your opinion which im entitled to do.
 
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This is the one reason I hate OcUK.

Fanboys. You know who you are, and it's so pathetic :rolleyes: (particularly ElRazur and Sony Crew who blank peoples opinions)

As for " I have yet to see a BD disc on sale " ... go to a decent DVD, Music shop and they will have a small section. I for one have seen them on sale and am not too bothered who wins the format war.
 
EVH said:
Fanboys. You know who you are, and it's so pathetic :rolleyes: (particularly ElRazur and Sony Crew who blank peoples opinions)

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This is why i hate people like you who jump on to band wagons or on-going problem without knowing the background behind it.
So let me guess, you think i picked on mr latte for no reasons? Shame on you.
 
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