The ultimate chilli con carne (with ghosts)

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I bought some ghost chillies a while back (dried) and have bottled out using them in anything so far, gave one away in hope they'd tell me what to do with it but he's not dared touch it either. So I want to make a chilli con carne with one. I think one is enough, they are quite big and deserve respect at least first time out.

Ill be using a standard size mince, the lean 450g you get from supermarkets and apart from kidney beans (which have to be in) well I'm really open to suggestions.

What's in your ultimate chilli and what tips have you got for me? :D
 
I keep it simple:
Onions
Mince
Kidney Beans
Cherry tomatoes
Can of chopped tomatoes
Cocoa powder
Spice to your hearts content, I use Nigerian chillies (don't know the name of them) paprika, cumin, salt/pepper and some garlic if I've got it to hand
 
For starters I'd not use mince and instead get some braising steak, shin steak or brisket.

After that this is the best recipe to use:

http://www.homesicktexan.com/2009/02/more-precise-texas-chili-recipe.html

edit: You can substitute the mexican chocolate for any standard dark chocolate. Same with the various chillies. More varieties = better chilli though.

Make sure you include the beer and espresso and go light on the tomato content.

edit2: I've added naga chillies to the recipe above (and beans) and they go well.
 
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Chipotle, Cayenne and Ancho chilli powders, coffee and skirt steak with the usual ingredients.

I'm not fussed what I eat it with but I don't see the appeal of putting cheese on top.
 
Chipotle, Cayenne and Ancho chilli powders, coffee and skirt steak with the usual ingredients.

I'm not fussed what I eat it with but I don't see the appeal of putting cheese on top.

Sounds like we have similar approaches. I can take or leave the cheese. I tend to be more fussed about having it if I add too many chillies (I like my food hot so that would be a *lot* of chillies :p )
 
I'm thinking getting some peppers and mild chillies to go with the Ghosts, is that a good idea? Just cheap stuff from the local shop, im not going hunting for types and brands etc..

Gonna stick with mince for now, its what i like and used to so want to keep consistency and compare to what i usually like.

Onions 1 large
Mince 500g
Kidney Beans
Can of chopped tomatoes
Fresh Garlic
2 Oxo cubes
1 ghost chilli
2-3 mild chillis
Pepper bell


Not convinced on chocolate or beer like, if so how much and what brands? Can both be used together?

Finally spices, cumin & paprika, is that all i need?
 
Quality of ingredients is paramount, you can't make decent chilli from supermarket junk, has to be fresh, has to be quality.
In particular you need to get your spices from a proper spice merchant, often this is cheaper than the silly pots of stale flavourless junk you get in supermarkets as well.

Mine begins by cooking sliced onions and pureed garlic sweated under a low heat (and I do mean low heat) with a little salt for about 30 minutes until the natural sugars are all released (if you cook onions fast you will destroy the sugars, which we don't want).

About 5 minutes before the onions and peppers are ready brown some quality minced braising steak with a little oil in a frying pan.

Add the mince to the onion pan and in the frying pan fry off some diced yellow and green peppers, and your chillis of choice (I use finger and jalapeno, ghost chilli are better in a curry of course you could use it here). Fry a little and add those to the onion pan (the reason we don't fry them with the beef if because they are quite watery). Now turn up the heat to med-high.

Next comes the spices, whole cumin seed, ground cumin, paprika, ground dried chilli (most important, don't get commerical, it has no flavour, grind your own is best!), oregano, parsley and black pepper. Add to the pan and fry off well.

Note on tomatoes: When you buy tinned tomatoes and tomato puree, buy the good stuff, cheap stuff is bitter garbage, we don't want that.

Add about a tube of double concentrate tomato paste and fry off for about a minute on a good high heat followed by half a pint of stout or porter. Cook off the alcohol, we don't want a raw alcohol taste but a nice malty flavour.

Now add a 2 tins of whole plum tomatoes which have been passed through a sieve, don't use a blender or you'll blitz the seeds and the seeds are bitter. You can be lazy and use chopped tinned or passata, but I think the plum tomatoes sieved is better. Along with this add some high cocoa percentage dark chocolate and a tiny tiny amount of peanut butter.

Finally add a can of kidney beans, a can of black beans and a can of pinto beans. Don't wash or rinse, a little of the juice is good for the chilli.

Add and bring up to the boil for a few minutes, place in a crock pot and cook about 125 degrees for as many hours as you can stand (minimum of 4).

Tend to serve with fresh pressed tortillas, white rice, soured cream and cheddar on the side so people can do what they like. I prefer it plain with a little rice on the side and maybe a tortilla or two.
 
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I'm thinking getting some peppers and mild chillies to go with the Ghosts, is that a good idea? Just cheap stuff from the local shop, im not going hunting for types and brands etc..

Gonna stick with mince for now, its what i like and used to so want to keep consistency and compare to what i usually like.

Onions 1 large
Mince 500g
Kidney Beans
Can of chopped tomatoes
Fresh Garlic
2 Oxo cubes
1 ghost chilli
2-3 mild chillis
Pepper bell


Not convinced on chocolate or beer like, if so how much and what brands? Can both be used together?

Finally spices, cumin & paprika, is that all i need?

pitchfork's post is a good one.

Personally I'd dump the oxo cubes. And get a few more chillies. Can you get chipotle at least? They're really good and add a nice smoky flavour.

A few pieces of dark chocolate and some espresso added at the end will massively improve the end results. I really recommend you try it out as I would never go back to making chilli without them myself :)
 
Quality of ingredients is paramount, you can't make decent chilli from supermarket junk, has to be fresh, has to be quality.
In particular you need to get your spices from a proper spice merchant, often this is cheaper than the silly pots of stale flavourless junk you get in supermarkets as well.

Mine begins by cooking sliced onions and pureed garlic sweated under a low heat (and I do mean low heat) with a little salt for about 30 minutes until the natural sugars are all released (if you cook onions fast you will destroy the sugars, which we don't want).

About 5 minutes before the onions and peppers are ready brown some quality minced braising steak with a little oil in a frying pan.

Add the mince to the onion pan and in the frying pan fry off some diced yellow and green peppers, and your chillis of choice (I use finger and jalapeno, ghost chilli are better in a curry of course you could use it here). Fry a little and add those to the onion pan (the reason we don't fry them with the beef if because they are quite watery). Now turn up the heat to med-high.

Next comes the spices, whole cumin seed, ground cumin, paprika, ground dried chilli (most important, don't get commerical, it has no flavour, grind your own is best!), oregano, parsley and black pepper. Add to the pan and fry off well.

Note on tomatoes: When you buy tinned tomatoes and tomato puree, buy the good stuff, cheap stuff is bitter garbage, we don't want that.

Add about a tube of double concentrate tomato paste and fry off for about a minute on a good high heat followed by half a pint of stout or porter. Cook off the alcohol, we don't want a raw alcohol taste but a nice malty flavour.

Now add a 2 tins of whole plum tomatoes which have been passed through a sieve, don't use a blender or you'll blitz the seeds and the seeds are bitter. You can be lazy and use chopped tinned or passata, but I think the plum tomatoes sieved is better. Along with this add some high cocoa percentage dark chocolate and a tiny tiny amount of peanut butter.

Finally add a can of kidney beans, a can of black beans and a can of pinto beans. Don't wash or rinse, a little of the juice is good for the chilli.

Add and bring up to the boil for a few minutes, place in a crock pot and cook about 125 degrees for as many hours as you can stand (minimum of 4).

Tend to serve with fresh pressed tortillas, white rice, soured cream and cheddar on the side so people can do what they like. I prefer it plain with a little rice on the side and maybe a tortilla or two.

This sounds amazing, dear god.
 
Chipotle, Cayenne and Ancho chilli powders, coffee and skirt steak with the usual ingredients.

I'm not fussed what I eat it with but I don't see the appeal of putting cheese on top.

This. I add in lardons too, I like the smokey flavour from these, as well as the chipotles. You can't have chilli without the chipotles IMO. Smokey awesomeness.
 
For starters I'd not use mince and instead get some braising steak, shin steak or brisket.

After that this is the best recipe to use:

http://www.homesicktexan.com/2009/02/more-precise-texas-chili-recipe.html

edit: You can substitute the mexican chocolate for any standard dark chocolate. Same with the various chillies. More varieties = better chilli though.

Make sure you include the beer and espresso and go light on the tomato content.

edit2: I've added naga chillies to the recipe above (and beans) and they go well.
Yep, no mince, add dark chocolate, or too much tomatoe if any, plenty of Cummin, espresso also good.
 
Only done it once or twice, but using ox cheek for a chilli is mindblowingly awesome.
Cook it until it's failling apart and you'll have a rich, unctuous chilli that tastes great (assuming the rest of it is up to scratch!)
 
I have been cooking chili con carne regularly enough for 25 years and the following tips are hard earned nuggets of information:

Whether you make a flash chili or a cheap chili the same rule applies. Its ALWAYS better 24 hours after cooking, reheated. Always.

Additionally, every chili must have cumin, cinamon and corriander as a minimum (and chilis of course).

If you are using powdered spices, then its 2 parts cumin to 1 part cinamon ratio, and you'll need about 2 tablespoons of cumin and 1 tablespoon of cinamon per 500 grams of meat minimum.

Finally, its best to layer your heat - use chili powder as the base heat (cooked with the meat), dried chili flakes as the mid heat (cooked with the onions) and fresh chilis for the main hit (added as soon as you start to add the liquid).
 
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bit like stew really :p first pot never as good as the next day ;)

once made a curry with some ghosts and couldnt finish it. put the remainder of them in a bag and my missus gave them to the mother in law :p i said where are those chillies ? :confused:

i gave em my mom :eek: :D i was straight on the phone :p

luckily she didn't eat em.
 
Not sure beans or tomatoes have a place in 'authentic' chilli, but it's up to you to make what you like. I prefer without, personally.

bit like stew really first pot never as good as the next day

Definitely.
 
Not sure beans or tomatoes have a place in 'authentic' chilli, but it's up to you to make what you like. I prefer without, personally.



Definitely.

I actually prefer it with tomatoes - I think it really lacks acidity without them and I'd rather have a better tasting dish than an authentic one!
 
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