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Poll: The Vega Review Thread.

What do we think about Vega?

  • What has AMD been doing for the past 1-2 years?

  • It consumes how many watts and is how loud!!!

  • It is not that bad.

  • Want to buy but put off by pricing and warranty.

  • I will be buying one for sure (I own a Freesync monitor so have little choice).

  • Better red than dead.

Results are only viewable after voting.
LoadsaMoney said:
According to Ryan of AnandTech, the Primitive Shaders are Enabled.



https://forum.beyond3d.com/threads/amd-vega-hardware-reviews.60246/page-45#post-1995903
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Maybe not everybody is exactly talking about the same thing? So, if by "primitive shader" you just mean the merged shader stages, that has to be enabled, it cannot be turned off.
But if that merged shader actually does something more than just what those fused shader stages are supposed to do based on the actual shaders, like figuring out front/backface and do culling already in the shader, is certainly up to the driver (and I could see a bunch of reasons why that may not always be an advantage and possibly be better placed under app developer's control, which isn't possible right now).
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Also more important,apparently AMD gave reviewers only THREE DAYS to test the cards out and right the reviews.

WTF??
 
Perhaps, but it could be 6 months, 12 months, 18 months before every last ounce of performance is squeezed out. And that could amount to 20%, 30% or who knows what.

Only AMD can possibly know for sure.

OTOH, this might be as good as it gets. Although that's less likely.
 
Ayahuasca said:
So are we looking at a case of signifant changes to graphs we got from earlier reviews with upcoming drivers?
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I dunno myself - but looking at Polaris we saw an RX470 being beaten by a GTX1060 3GB when the latter was launched,but I saw a Hexus review of one of the RX570 cards and it was matching a GTX1060 6GB now in a number of games.

So there will be improvements in performance going by prior history but I don't know at what rate though.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Reply on there:



Also more important,apparently AMD gave reviewers only THREE DAYS to test the cards out and right the reviews.

WTF??
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Yeah, all rushed, seems like they just released them unfinished.

Dunno about the HBCC, as we saw that working months and months ago, when they showed Mankind Divided with it on/off, and Tombi, with it on, stutter was gone, and the minimums shot right up.
 
It should be interesting to see the Asus reference cards listed at some point, around £50 more just because they put a sticker saying asus on it.
 
KentMan said:
Sad thing is AMD got a lot of faith back with the CPU launches and has now singlehandedly wiped out most of it with yet another botched GPU launch...
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Yeah, shame really. If only they could have come in pricing Vega 56 £299, Vega 64 £399 and Liquid Edition £499 :(
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Yeah, all rushed, seems like they just released them unfinished.

Dunno about the HBCC, as we saw that working months and months ago, when they showed Mankind Divided with it on/off, and Tombi, with it on, stutter was gone, and the minimums shot right up.
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I really don't know with AMD and their launches,they did the same with Ryzen and luckily it was a solid product underneath the terrible launch and luckily plenty of people(including reviewers) stuck with it.

The issue is by the time they get any improvements out people would have read the launch reviews,first impressions count and thats the end. Look at what happened to the R9 290/290X. I mean look how a rebrand with some tweaks did to the perception of essentially the same card in the R9 390/390X.

I got to say ATI were better in handling both their successful and crap products than AMD appears to do.
 
TNA said:
Yeah, shame really. If only they could have come in pricing Vega 56 £299, Vega 64 £399 and Liquid Edition £499 :(
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Sane pricing? What madness is this! To be fair though i think its the hbm2 making the cards more expensive, before "supply and demand" (retailer milking) factors in.
 
Gerard said:
Sane pricing? What madness is this! To be fair though i think its the hbm2 making the cards more expensive, before "supply and demand" factors in.
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Yeah. Hopefully by the time Navi comes out, going HBM will pay off for AMD, as so far it has made things worse for them in my opinion.

Hopefully Navi will be their Ryzen and they are able to improve price for performance like they always used to.
 
TheRealDeal said:
This post reminds me of the Jeremy Kyle show lol. You would rather buy a Titan Xp when the price rises on Gpu's for the last 4-5 years is imo down to the Titan brand and nvidia. Amd come in with a sub par card and over price a bit and it's see you later. Logic much.
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Well I went Titan after all :] Whole overclocked water cooled system pulls 430W when stress testing in 3D mark extreme. And this is while playing WoW in 3D maxed at 120+fps
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I should Actually thank AMD since previous system was pulling at same conditions over 300w with lower fps . And Titan renders my videos for my Youtube Faster also.
 
Ayahuasca said:
Opened that spoiler and only the top half fit my page, thought you'd taken a picture of your crack for a second :eek:
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Hahahaha, same thing happened to me, but did not think it was his crack, just did not know what I was looking it until I scrolled down. Nice imagination you got there. Now that I look I can see what you mean though. lol
 
harney said:
:eek: i thought the same but was wondering that is one hell of a bumb mapped arse
:D
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Ayahuasca said:
Opened that spoiler and only the top half fit my page, thought you'd taken a picture of your crack for a second :eek:
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TNA said:
Hahahaha, same thing happened to me, but did not think it was his crack, just did not know what I was looking it until I scrolled down. Nice imagination you got there. Now that I look I can see what you mean though. lol
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:D:D:D
 
I think the saving grace for AMD on this card is that their support for GPU drivers is a mile ahead of Nvidia's.

4-6 months down the line we'll see the Vega card comfortably beat the 1080 (I still don't think it'll ever beat the 1080Ti though) but that's almost a moot point as Volta will be here then and Nvidia will stretch their legs further ahead. Look at the old 290x/390x cards and their driver gains over time have given it a massive bump in performance from initial launch.
 
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