70W? (210W & 140W). Not going to quibble about how efficient the 1070 is. You can add the 1080 as well.
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Poll: The Vega Review Thread.
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Caporegime
Gibbo also said he had a miner ringing him up asking if he could pay £800 per card to jump the queue...
Soldato
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-08/radeon-rx-vega-64-56-test/7/
At same clocks vega is 5% faster than fiji.
At same clocks vega is 5% faster than fiji.
And that he turned him down.
But the comedy that there was an idiot trying to bribe his way to a Vega card based on hoax reports of mining performance based on a rumor that Gibbo himself accidentally started is not lost on me XD
Caporegime
He has to turn him down iirc as it's illegal practice.
Why not respond to my other post questioning why you're so sure these cards are as bad as you think for mining.
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There are EVGA 1080s on sale now at £430.
Correction. There are Inno3D 1080s for sale at £450. Google shopping lied to me
The Vega 64 was never an awesome deal. Ever.
That hoax was started or at least regurgitated by Gibbo. One might imagine it was spread to sell stock...
He also said 100 my/s hash rate...
Vega is overclocked Fury. RX 5xx are overclocked RX 4xx parts. So RX 6xx will be overclocked Hawaii chips??
I didn't see it, but for reference it's because of a number of reasons, firstly the Vega FE is and that is essentially a Vega 64 with more VRAM. Secondly the Vega 64 uses the same RAM as the 56 just overclocked and tests have show that's a limiting factor in mining as most of the performance has already been extracted (and it gives an extra 2MH over the 56). Thirdly the GTX1070 beats the V56's mining performance while using less power, and unless the V56 comes in at £325 or lower that's a bad thing for mining on it (and do you really see it coming in at £325 or lower?).
At the end of the day you need mental issues to want to spend more money for a GPU that performs worse than other at the single thing you want it to do, while using more electricity.
There is a difference between passing on a rumor you have heard from a supplier, and reporting some of your companies sales figures.
Caporegime
That doesn't explain why someone is getting 42 Mh/s at such low core clocks though, he was obviously profiting from the way he was running the card so power usage must be way better than reviews are making out at standard core clocks. Let's not forget some people aren't paying for electricity or can get it much cheaper than the standard rate so hash per watt isn't the be all and end all.
I just don't get why you're happy to believe Gibbo on the surge of sales is from freesync yet when he says miners are also desperate for the cards you think he's full of it.
I'm guessing you don't have sales figures though, just a generic claim of 'big increase' which could mean anything?
Do you have a link for this please? (not accusing you of making it up, I want to see as it's vastly different to all the other results so far.
I believe him on both counts, I just don't class one moron trying to throw away money as indicative of all miners. Especially when I mine myself and browse mining forums, where the current advice is to stay away from Vega as it's worse value for mining than pretty much every Nvidia card not called Titan.
Nah it was just a generic statement:
a lot of gamers are buying VEGA due to FREESYNC, proven by the fact our FREESYNC monitor sales we have seen very good attachment last 24hr of people buying VEGA's and FREESYNC monitors together, mainly Samsung and LG models.
Caporegime
http://www.legitreviews.com/amds-ne...mized-driver-tested_197095#comment-3469484648
I don't think it is just one moron miner trying to do this, sites in the US had higher pricing for each card after the first and I really don't think we'd see that behaviour just down to freesync and the limited number of professionals who don't already have a compute card wanting one.
That's pretty interesting, I wonder if that guy is using the Vega FE liquid or if he's watercooling the standard FE.
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Yeah it's hard to tell, 55c at the lower core clock in a cool room may be possible on air.
Cool, you got a link for that?
Also worth noting the 1070 figure on that chart is slightly low and it only compares Ethereum (the Nvidia cards can make more BTC by mining different altcoins).
I'm not sure that using double the power to gain a 3MHash advantage is really a viable claim to dominance, especially when your opponent can make up that ground with Zcash or something.
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Bizarre that V56 is outperforming V64 even with lower memory/core clocks...
According to AMD most of the new transistors in vega from Fiji have gone in facilitating higher clock speeds, so the IPC difference is not surprising. This is not a problem, as long as you can actually hit the desired clock speeds and power. Vega evidently can't clock high enough and draw way to much power for its given performance.
People get far too hug up on IPC as if that is a single most important criteria for a processors. the only thing that really matters is instructions per second, for a given power envelope. How you achieve a high IPS doesn't matter, high clocks and low IPC, high IPC and low clocks, some combination therefor, but you have to improve IPS.
If VEga could hit 2.0GHz a its current pwoer level or less, then there would be no issues with the minor IPC improvement.
Caporegime
https://hothardware.com/news/amd-radeon-rx-vega-mining-block-chain-ethereum
Remember,the AMD cards in low power mode don't drop much performance anyway. So someone dropping core clocks,etc whilst maintaining memory frequency will be fine.
Plus AMD has implemented 40 additional instructions for mining,so there is probably room for improvement over that and this is only the first driver to target mining. This is not going to help prices methinks.
360w is low power mode? damn.
Actually they were for compute work, mining was just one of the compute buzzwords they stuck on the slide. In order for that to be of use somebody would have to make a new coin who's miner took advantage of them, and being easy to mine isn't exactly something that sees a coins value rise.