The winter gas & energy situation

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Rather than have this vanish in the energy prices thread, I thought I'd create a new thread for actual information and updates. In my line of work we deal with this a lot and get quite a bit of correspondence from the various stakeholders, I'll pop them all in here for anyone who's interested.

Here's a Google drive link, I'll pop in anything I get as it comes out and also update this thread. The two documents in there now are available on the National Grid's website if you want to get it there, but I only realised this after I made the folder and uploaded them so screw it, take your pick.

2022 Gas status – Google Drive

drive.google.com drive.google.com

I'm responsible for one of the UK's largest research institutions so energy loss would be a massive issue for us, so we're on the forefront of it all.

Enjoy :)
 
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This thread will just get drowned anyway in energy price talk, as it's all linked together. Best stick to a single one.
 
Not sure if this is the right place for this but I think it's relevant - for those homes that use heating oil,

UKIFDA, the trade body for the liquid fuel distribution industry, notes the government’s announcement this morning confirming that the £100 fixed payment to heating oil users will be made via electricity companies.

This will take time, and customers should await further details from the government.
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Azza said:
Mr La-di-da over here.
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Prof Di de dum no less, fair enough :)


The biggest point is storage capacity, my late father was involved in hydro projects via the water authority going back decades. They got slack, thats all it is we have the same requirement and planning required now that was obvious in the ninities. Russia comes in with a cheap option and spoilt everyone into burning something cheaply available, the weakest path of resistance became a flaw.

If they pump water up hill into reservoirs its a net positive, its chucking buckets down most days where I live. The water stored turns turbines for power during peak demand, really reliable energy had they not failed to build it. Im sure it remains single figures for the UK when it could be half of all power, solar is new and still improving but water is obvious and neglected by talking heads who do little useful even in directing others.

one of the UK's largest research institutions
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Did they ever make an effort to become partly self sufficient.
 
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I think there is a bit of optimism to some of these outlooks - although chances are it won't happen, if there is an impact to gas supplies it is likely to be significant and not just level 1-3 kind of measures to mitigate. If it corresponds with a cold spell, which it likely would if it did happen, possibly generation could fall to as low as 30-40% of demand, depending a bit on what we could import, unless other steps were taken in the meantime to be able to bring other sources online.

It would be pretty hideous if we had a longer cold snap coinciding with low wind, low solar and disrupted gas supply - but we've not really had those kind of winters lately.
 
Diddums said:
Rather than have this vanish in the energy prices thread, I thought I'd create a new thread for actual information and updates. In my line of work we deal with this a lot and get quite a bit of correspondence from the various stakeholders, I'll pop them all in here for anyone who's interested.

Here's a Google drive link, I'll pop in anything I get as it comes out and also update this thread. The two documents in there now are available on the National Grid's website if you want to get it there, but I only realised this after I made the folder and uploaded them so screw it, take your pick.

2022 Gas status – Google Drive

drive.google.com drive.google.com

I'm responsible for one of the UK's largest research institutions so energy loss would be a massive issue for us, so we're on the forefront of it all.

Enjoy :)
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Thanks.

According to some websites. The EU has more gas than it can deal with?
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I’m currently on an LNG carrier that’s just loaded a cargo in Ras Laffan, Qatar bound for Poland, a voyage that’s normally done as fast as we possibly can, with the main engines running balls to the wall, flat out. (Well, as much as the cooling system can cope, the moron’s who designed these ships never accounted for 34° sea water in the Gulf.) The voyage orders for this cargo are that we arrive there in nearly a month’s time, which is quite slack considering one of our sister ship’s has just done the return voyage from there in 16 days or so.
 
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