Theoretical Prediction - Will Nvidia GPUs ever support FreeSync?

jwilliamson47 · 27 Jun 2015 at 20:06

Thought this would spark an interesting debate.

Twirlywoos · 27 Jun 2015 at 20:29

no

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Greebo · 27 Jun 2015 at 20:38

no cause its Nvidia.

If they did then they would to stop charging Nvidia card users £200 for having gsync silly

Rroff · 27 Jun 2015 at 20:41

Completely random really - one of those things they will probably be resistant to implementing but might randomly decide to add it tomorrow for whatever reason.

I don't think it would really hurt them to add it (DP adaptive sync) through - aslong as they keep on supporting and evolving gsync it stands up fairly well on its own merits and has several potential advantages to adaptive sync.

Greebo · 27 Jun 2015 at 21:09

Rroff said:
Completely random really - one of those things they will probably be resistant to implementing but might randomly decide to add it tomorrow for whatever reason.

I don't think it would really hurt them to add it (DP adaptive sync) through - aslong as they keep on supporting and evolving gsync it stands up fairly well on its own merits and has several potential advantages to adaptive sync.

It does but then why would Nvidia card owners pay £200 to geta gsync monitor? It would still reduce gsync sales if they offered freesync though ieven if you though gysnc superior.

CerberusReborn · 27 Jun 2015 at 21:14

If AMD go out of business then maybe but it wont happen.

GoogalyMoogaly · 27 Jun 2015 at 21:27

FreeSync, no. That's AMD's name for their adaptive sync implementation.

Nvidia could support adaptive sync with their own name (GSyncLite or something).
But I'm not sure if Nvidia have the required hardware built in to their current cards do they?
So I'd imagine it could be another generation or so because Nvidia will probably want to have some cards that support it before releasing it.

Although still seems unlikely if GSync is selling and they're making money out of it.

Rroff · 27 Jun 2015 at 21:32

Greebo said:
It does but then why would Nvidia card owners pay £200 to geta gsync monitor? It would still reduce gsync sales if they offered freesync though ieven if you though gysnc superior.

One thing possibly is windowed mode support - there is no capabilities for it in the adaptive sync implementation and has to be included and maintained by the GPU developer really - not sure if results will ever be ideal but so far it looks like nVidia is going to be the only one with anything even close (and its still a long way from ideal) to a robust solution for that. The gsync module potentially makes it a little easier to do though I'm not sure how big an impact that has.

DrBombcrater · 27 Jun 2015 at 22:08

jwilliamson47 said:
Thought this would spark an interesting debate.

FreeSync - no, it's an AMD brand. Adaptive sync - yes, 100% for sure.

NVidia has shown off 'mobile G-Sync' which is built on the same DisplayPort panel self-refresh functionality that FreeSync uses and doesn't require a G-Sync module. The question of whether they ever unlock that capability for desktop monitors is something else entirely. My guess is they will only do it if sales of G-Sync monitors fall well below those of FreeSync models and monitor OEMs give up on it; otherwise NV will continue to charge their fanboy tax for as long as they can convince people to pay it.

old gamer · 28 Jun 2015 at 08:01

it depends on the market, if freesync becomes the peoples choice then nvidia will adopt it, i think its going to be like betamax and vhs there can be only one and this will be decided by the buying public

Random Guy Esq. · 28 Jun 2015 at 13:08

Forgive my technical ignorance, but would it be possible for monitor manufacturers to include both GSync and display port adaptive sync in the same model?

DrBombcrater · 28 Jun 2015 at 14:34

Not unless NVidia agrees. The internal electronics of G-Sync monitors come from NVidia, so only they can add adaptive sync.

Random Guy Esq. · 28 Jun 2015 at 18:41

DrBombcrater said:
Not unless NVidia agrees. The internal electronics of G-Sync monitors come from NVidia, so only they can add adaptive sync.

Sure, but from a technical standpoint?

varkanoid · 28 Jun 2015 at 22:38

old gamer said:
it depends on the market, if freesync becomes the peoples choice then nvidia will adopt it, i think its going to be like betamax and vhs there can be only one and this will be decided by the buying public

Dont know Acer are doing a good job of frakking up g-sync monitors.

SeanDrake · 29 Jun 2015 at 02:18

varkanoid said:
Dont know Acer are doing a good job of frakking up g-sync monitors.

To be fair ACER are not picking sides as there freesync monitor is a cluster**** as well

David Bisset · 29 Jun 2015 at 16:02

Yes - they already can support adaptive sync on their mGPUs so are just deliberately screwing their desktop customers now, if Intel support adaptive sync they'll be forced to keep up.

melmac · 29 Jun 2015 at 17:23

David Bisset said:
Yes - they already can support adaptive sync on their mGPUs so are just deliberately screwing their desktop customers now, if Intel support adaptive sync they'll be forced to keep up.

Their current desktop GPUs cannot support adaptive sync, they don't have the required hardware. It's why only the latest GCN GPUs can support adaptive sync. The reason they can support adaptive sync on their mGPUs is because variable refresh rate is a requirement for the embedded display port specification, so the hardware is already in place. This is also the reason why all GCN APU's can support it.

smilertoo · 30 Jun 2015 at 03:04

I thought freesync was now part of the vesa specification, and not a closed system the maker can use to screw more money out of its customers.

melmac · 30 Jun 2015 at 11:41

smilertoo said:
I thought freesync was now part of the vesa specification, and not a closed system the maker can use to screw more money out of its customers.

Adaptive sync is an optional part of the display port specification.

TerminatorUK · 30 Jun 2015 at 21:53

I think it'll go the way of PhysX (source code now being offered out for free) - once the interest in G-Sync runs out or the paying public vote with their feet and go for Free/Adaptive Sync, it'll suddenly become a 'feature' that Nvidia GPUs can use as well.