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I found a bottle of this I forgot I had, still in date and hardly used. Has anyone any experiance with this supplement?

I thought I'd use it in conjunction with my current diet and training to see if I could shed a little extra bodyfat.

Any tips for best results other than taking it with water three times a day prior to meals?

Anything I can take it with to boost the results?

I still need to be able to run while using this BTW, so I'd rather my heart wasn't beating that fast it explodes out of my chest or just stops ;)
 
This product won't help you burn any extra bodyfat, total rip-off. The only thing in there that might help a tiny bit is the green tea but 100mg from 3 caps is a pathetic amount. As an example I take 1000mg pre-workout!

Might give a little stimulating pre-workout boost though from the caffeine... maybe.

Thanks to all the Vit B12 - Cyanocobalamin RDA - 20,000% though I'd probably just throw them in the bin.
 
Thanks for the reply. When I served in Bosnia during the first NATO tour I bought some Themobol (1996), but I suspect the formula was very different back then. I believe it was largely Ephedrine based.

Is there a current product available you do feel confident to recommend?

I had a quick look on the My Protein website, but all I could see was a possible caffeine tablets and sida cordifolia combination. How well would this work? Again, does anyone have any experiance?

If someone can recommend a product that have used with great success I'd be grateful for any suggestions.
 
Chong Warrior said:
...100mg from 3 caps is a pathetic amount. As an example I take 1000mg pre-workout!
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I've just had a look on the Maximuscle web site - it's 100mg of Green Tea per capsule, not per 3 capsules.

Not that the amount compares to what you take though ;)
 
Come on guys, I've been waiting for an answer to my 2nd post all day! ;)

Surely some of you must have be able to answer my queries? It doesn't have to be a reply from Chong, any of you knowledgable guys will do.
 
I wouldn't really use any of the "fat burner" type supplements, unless it was for the last couple of % bodyfat pre-comp.

A good diet, cardio and weight training will do fine for anyone who's not competing im my opinion.

I dropped 26lbs in 8 weeks, strength went up; and measurements stayed pretty much the same, if not slightly bigger in some areas. Oh, and I dropped 5 inches off my waist.
 
ethos said:
I wouldn't really use any of the "fat burner" type supplements, unless it was for the last couple of % bodyfat pre-comp.

A good diet, cardio and weight training will do fine for anyone who's not competing im my opinion.

I dropped 26lbs in 8 weeks, strength went up; and measurements stayed pretty much the same, if not slightly bigger in some areas. Oh, and I dropped 5 inches off my waist.
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My diets good, training is good and varied and I have seen a change in the last 3 weeks. I was just trying to make a little extra progress. I'm being my usual impatient self I guess ;)
 
The Mad Rapper said:
I've just had a look on the Maximuscle web site - it's 100mg of Green Tea per capsule, not per 3 capsules.

Not that the amount compares to what you take though ;)
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Holland and Barrett do stronger green tea extract if you're still after some. They come in 315mg capsules, think they're on offer atm too.
 
It supposedly has mild thermogenic properties. Don't ask me what thermogenesis is though. All I know is it's conducive to weight loss.
 
Oh I see what happened, chong was referring to the green tea in the thermobol, I think.

It comes in capsule form, typically, and drink with water after a meal, or in a shake. As above Chong takes 1000mg. I take 315mg daily.
 
The best thing I know of that really works is the original ECA stack. That's Ephedrine, Caffeine and Asprin. Ephedrine cannot be sold as a sports supplement in this country anymore and is prescription only I believe. Although you can buy it from a chemist it comes with another substance that's pretty nasty so I'm not going to go into that.

Legally the best combo I know of is

Acetyl L Carnitine (ALCAR) - 1g-2g 3x times a day
Green Tea Extract - 500mg 3x times a day

This is quite a decent combo and is what I'm currently using. You'll struggle to find any better that's 100% legal, especially for that kind of money ;)

They also double up as a potent pre-workout booster and packed full of potent anti-oxidants, important for people training hard.
 
Chong Warrior said:
The best thing I know of that really works is the original ECA stack. That's Ephedrine, Caffeine and Asprin. Ephedrine cannot be sold as a sports supplement in this country anymore and is prescription only I believe. Although you can buy it from a chemist it comes with another substance that's pretty nasty so I'm not going to go into that.

Legally the best combo I know of is

Acetyl L Carnitine (ALCAR) - 1g-2g 3x times a day
Green Tea Extract - 500mg 3x times a day

This is quite a decent combo and is what I'm currently using. You'll struggle to find any better that's 100% legal, especially for that kind of money ;)

They also double up as a potent pre-workout booster and packed full of potent anti-oxidants, important for people training hard.
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Thanks for posting that, I am grateful. How effective have you found this to be as a fat burner when taken as you've advised? Will I experiance better results with ALCAR & Caffeine then with Thermobol & CLA or Caffeine & Sida Colfidia?

I don't mind the jitters of ephedrine type supplements so much, but I really don't want to waste either my time or my money using ineffective supplementation.

As always, I am very grateful for your advise ;)
 
The Mad Rapper said:
Thanks for posting that, I am grateful. How effective have you found this to be as a fat burner when taken as you've advised? Will I experiance better results with ALCAR & Caffeine then with Thermobol & CLA or Caffeine & Sida Colfidia?

I don't mind the jitters of ephedrine type supplements so much, but I really don't want to waste either my time or my money using ineffective supplementation.

As always, I am very grateful for your advise ;)
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Caffeine and Sida are just stimulants, you might get a 0.5% increase in fat loss if you took a LOT of both but the cost and the speed your heart will be going it just make it impractical, unhealthy and expensive!

There's no magic pill, diet and calorie control are where it's at. Supplements are when you start getting very close to your goal and that last bit is a struggle and energy is low due to the calorie defecit.

Even the most powerfull and illegal supp's like Clenbuterol and Ephedrine are only going to give a maximum of around 5% boost to calorie expenditure. They are also banned for a reason!

The term fat-burner is also misleading, all these do is raise your metabolism and/or body temperature to burn more calories than usual, they don't actually burn fat off you. Clenbuterol only works for a couple weeks at a time aswell before your body adjusts and makes it useless.
 
Chong Warrior said:
Caffeine and Sida are just stimulants, you might get a 0.5% increase in fat loss if you took a LOT of both but the cost and the speed your heart will be going it just make it impractical, unhealthy and expensive!

There's no magic pill, diet and calorie control are where it's at. Supplements are when you start getting very close to your goal and that last bit is a struggle and energy is low due to the calorie defecit.

Even the most powerfull and illegal supp's like Clenbuterol and Ephedrine are only going to give a maximum of around 5% boost to calorie expenditure. They are also banned for a reason!

The term fat-burner is also misleading, all these do is raise your metabolism and/or body temperature to burn more calories than usual, they don't actually burn fat off you. Clenbuterol only works for a couple weeks at a time aswell before your body adjusts and makes it useless.
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I am grateful you took the time to type that out Chong, I understand the point you're making and will bear it in mind.

I'd still be grateful if you could tell me how effective you've found the ALCAR and Green Tea combination, you didn't answer in your reply ;)
 
The Mad Rapper said:
I am grateful you took the time to type that out Chong, I understand the point you're making and will bear it in mind.

I'd still be grateful if you could tell me how effective you've found the ALCAR and Green Tea combination, you didn't answer in your reply ;)
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It's ok, certainly nothing special but then it's pretty cheap. The ALCAR helps with focus in the gym aswell and green tea is excellent for all round health aswell as a decent caffeine boost.

Worth a shot but it's no ECA stack, then again nothing is! At least this combo is legal and healthy though, plus it's no gimmicky rip-off ;)
 
Chong Warrior said:
There's no magic pill.
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wasnt there something that was in the news recently, a pill that does work, but would only be available on prescription from specialists and would cost silly money?
i will have a look and see if i can find it.
 
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