Thin 22" LED with VESA mount. ?
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Acer S221HQL is only 15mm thick with a VESA mount plus the VX2250WM-LED has one and is is thinner than the BenQ G2222HDL.
Actually the G2222HDL is somewhat thicker than I thought it was - I had the sleek V2220 in mind (no VESA mounting). But you have to be careful with where they measure the 'thickness'. Sometimes it's edge thickness and sometimes it includes that bulky 'box' at the rear that houses the VESA mount screws and the like. I'm glad you bought up the VX2250WM - excellent monitor and nice official pictures to highlight the point I was making - at the bottom of this page. The Acer S221HQL is about as thin as you'll get I reckon but I know nothing about how the monitor itself performs. You can blame Acer for that as they have terrible PR in this country.
Edit: Just realised you also posted this thread which I only half responded to - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18210759&highlight=username_PCM2. The S221HQL is one of their newest LED backlit monitors but certainly not their first. The model numbers can be a bit confusing but I believe the S243HL was their first LED-backlit monitor. This and the S273HL that came afterwards (and just before the S221HQL et al.) suffer from wildly inaccurate colours, excessive gamma and other problems that plague 'poor' LED backlit monitors. This isn't something that the VX2250WM or any/most of Samsung's LED-backlit monitors suffer from but it's something I've seen in Acer, BenQ and Dell models.
Edit: Just realised you also posted this thread which I only half responded to - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18210759&highlight=username_PCM2. The S221HQL is one of their newest LED backlit monitors but certainly not their first. The model numbers can be a bit confusing but I believe the S243HL was their first LED-backlit monitor. This and the S273HL that came afterwards (and just before the S221HQL et al.) suffer from wildly inaccurate colours, excessive gamma and other problems that plague 'poor' LED backlit monitors. This isn't something that the VX2250WM or any/most of Samsung's LED-backlit monitors suffer from but it's something I've seen in Acer, BenQ and Dell models.
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Thanks PCM2
Funny enough i was just looking at a video review of the 24" version of the Acer S221HQL and the picture looked horrid and there does seem to be a vast amount of reviews that dislike the Acer monitors as they all seem to have some sort of problem so i've pretty much given up on the idea of the S221HQL.
The reviews seem really good for VX2250WM-LED with it's auto pixel mapping / centering without stretching but they seem to think for the price range the BenQ G2222HDL has a better picture so i'm pretty much going around in circles.
I see some people mention the LG range but i've not had a chance to check them yet for thickness and VESA mount.
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Funny enough i was just looking at a video review of the 24" version of the Acer S221HQL and the picture looked horrid and there does seem to be a vast amount of reviews that dislike the Acer monitors as they all seem to have some sort of problem so i've pretty much given up on the idea of the S221HQL.
The reviews seem really good for VX2250WM-LED with it's auto pixel mapping / centering without stretching but they seem to think for the price range the BenQ G2222HDL has a better picture so i'm pretty much going around in circles.
I see some people mention the LG range but i've not had a chance to check them yet for thickness and VESA mount.
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I don't think LG's LED backlit models have VESA mounting . The G2222HDL, assuming it's like the G2420HDBL, has a slightly more vibrant image than the VX2250WM. The colour accuracy is better on the VX2250WM, however, and it handles gradients better. This is based on the 24 inch models and my brief usage of one individual unit of each so I'm afraid it might not be all that useful to you 
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. The G2222HDL, assuming it's like the G2420HDBL, has a slightly more vibrant image than the VX2250WM. The colour accuracy is better on the VX2250WM, however, and it handles gradients better. This is based on the 24 inch models and my brief usage of one individual unit of each so I'm afraid it might not be all that useful to you .This is what expertreviews.co.uk has to say about both Monitors.
BenQ G2222HDL 22in widescreen monitor review
The 22in G2222HDL is the successor to the BenQ G2220HD. The latter won a Best Buy award thanks to its image quality at a low price, so we were keen to find out if the new model could take the crown from its now-obsolete sibling.
The newcomer looks identical - its stand has the same textured inlay, while a useful ridge along the top acts as a convenient handle for carrying the monitor. It has the same Full HD resolution, but rather than having fluorescent tubes for backlights, the G2222HDL uses LEDs.
Placing the two side by side showed that the new model is brighter and colours look richer. We tweaked contrast and colours using the Standard mode as a starting point to get the most natural colours, but other presets use dynamic contrast and boost colours to incredible degrees, which some people might like when playing games or watching movies.
As usual, BenQ's menu system was clear and easy to follow although the slight delay when switching menu screens can be annoying. The menus include brightness, contrast and colour controls, plus a sharpness control that we found added too many artefacts to the image. Dynamic contrast is available using certain presets, but in Standard mode it's disabled.
At its maximum value, dynamic contrast made colours overblown but retained a remarkable amount of detail. Impressively, there weren't any sudden changes in brightness that normally plague dynamic contrast implementations. However, the setting did have a tendency to over-emphasise dark areas, making some scenes in The Dark Knight virtually unwatchable.
In our gaming tests we found response times to be great, with fluid motion during fast action. Image quality presets can be switched on the fly by using the menu system's arrow buttons, so you can choose overblown colours and dynamic contrast in a game, and then switch back to more natural colours for work with photos.
The screen's matt finish reduces reflection from overhead lights. On some monitors, this adds graininess to the image, but we noticed this only when we weren't square on to the screen.
You won't get many extras at this price - the screen doesn't swivel to portrait mode and the stand doesn't allow for height adjustment. There aren't any internal speakers - not a great loss, though, as these are generally of terrible quality. With no HDMI input, you might need an adaptor to connect certain devices, but the DVI port does support HDCP copy protection so you can watch Blu-ray movies, for example.
If the lack of height adjustment is a problem you could always buy a monitor stand - or use a thick book to place the display at the right height. At this low price, the G2222HDL is fantastic value and it deservedly wins our Best Buy award.
Verdict:
A brilliant follow-up to the incredible G2220HD, the G2222HDL has an LED backlight for a brighter picture, and still has great contrast and vibrant colours.
ViewSonic VX2250wm-LED review
At the risk of wheeling out a tired cliché, it really is a great time to buy a new monitor at the moment. Most manufacturers have launched their LED-backlit models and - as ever - are all competing intensely on price. ViewSonic's new VX2250wm-LED isn't exactly pretty, but its image quality is a step up from others we've seen.
The glossy piano black frame and base are highly reflective, and a little distracting compared to monitors with a matt casing, but at least the screen itself has a matt finish. We dislike the garish - and unnecessary - LED and 1080p Full HD logos on the bezel and we don't much like the touch-sensitive controls on the right-hand side either. Unlike LG's controls, ViewSonic's don't light up, but they're quite responsive.
It's refreshing not to find pointless colour effects in the menu, or other meaningless 'technologies'. Instead, you have all the basic controls for colour, brightness and contrast. You can select various colour temperatures, or control the red, green and blue levels independently. When you're not in the menu, you can hit the '2' key to switch between the VGA and DVI inputs, or the up/down arrows to increase or decrease volume.
ViewSonic VX2250wm-LED
It isn't immediately obvious that the VX2250wm-LED has speakers, since they're built into the rear of the case, facing the ceiling. They're loud enough for Windows sounds, but few people will be happy with their quality for music or even YouTube videos.
The good news is that you'll be happy with the image quality. Unlike some LED-based monitors we've seen, contrast was good. Subtly different shades of the same colour were easy to distinguish from each other, and vertical viewing angles are better than we'd expect from a screen of this type. Horizontal viewing angles aren't the best, but you'll see accurate colours as long as you're sitting roughly square-on.
Colours aren't as vibrant as those on glossy monitors, but the lack of reflections far outweighs this minor downside. In any case, colours are lifelike and we'd be happy to edit photos and video on the VX2250wm-LED. Brightness is the only slight weakness, but you'd only notice that it isn't quite bright enough in the sunniest room.
The real advantage of an LED monitor is its power consumption: we measured only 21W with the brightness set to maximum. That's around half the power a 22in monitor with a traditional cold cathode backlight would use. One other bonus is the auto power off feature which switches the monitor off when it isn't being used.
Unfortunately for ViewSonic, BenQ's LED-based G2222HDL costs around £15 less than the VX2250wm-LED, has better image quality and is more stylish to boot. Unless you can find the ViewSonic cheaper, the G2222HDL is narrowly the better choice.
Verdict:
Good image quality, but the design isn't particularly attractive and it costs a little more than the competition.
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BenQ G2222HDL 22in widescreen monitor review
The 22in G2222HDL is the successor to the BenQ G2220HD. The latter won a Best Buy award thanks to its image quality at a low price, so we were keen to find out if the new model could take the crown from its now-obsolete sibling.
The newcomer looks identical - its stand has the same textured inlay, while a useful ridge along the top acts as a convenient handle for carrying the monitor. It has the same Full HD resolution, but rather than having fluorescent tubes for backlights, the G2222HDL uses LEDs.
Placing the two side by side showed that the new model is brighter and colours look richer. We tweaked contrast and colours using the Standard mode as a starting point to get the most natural colours, but other presets use dynamic contrast and boost colours to incredible degrees, which some people might like when playing games or watching movies.
As usual, BenQ's menu system was clear and easy to follow although the slight delay when switching menu screens can be annoying. The menus include brightness, contrast and colour controls, plus a sharpness control that we found added too many artefacts to the image. Dynamic contrast is available using certain presets, but in Standard mode it's disabled.
At its maximum value, dynamic contrast made colours overblown but retained a remarkable amount of detail. Impressively, there weren't any sudden changes in brightness that normally plague dynamic contrast implementations. However, the setting did have a tendency to over-emphasise dark areas, making some scenes in The Dark Knight virtually unwatchable.
In our gaming tests we found response times to be great, with fluid motion during fast action. Image quality presets can be switched on the fly by using the menu system's arrow buttons, so you can choose overblown colours and dynamic contrast in a game, and then switch back to more natural colours for work with photos.
The screen's matt finish reduces reflection from overhead lights. On some monitors, this adds graininess to the image, but we noticed this only when we weren't square on to the screen.
You won't get many extras at this price - the screen doesn't swivel to portrait mode and the stand doesn't allow for height adjustment. There aren't any internal speakers - not a great loss, though, as these are generally of terrible quality. With no HDMI input, you might need an adaptor to connect certain devices, but the DVI port does support HDCP copy protection so you can watch Blu-ray movies, for example.
If the lack of height adjustment is a problem you could always buy a monitor stand - or use a thick book to place the display at the right height. At this low price, the G2222HDL is fantastic value and it deservedly wins our Best Buy award.
Verdict:
A brilliant follow-up to the incredible G2220HD, the G2222HDL has an LED backlight for a brighter picture, and still has great contrast and vibrant colours.
ViewSonic VX2250wm-LED review
At the risk of wheeling out a tired cliché, it really is a great time to buy a new monitor at the moment. Most manufacturers have launched their LED-backlit models and - as ever - are all competing intensely on price. ViewSonic's new VX2250wm-LED isn't exactly pretty, but its image quality is a step up from others we've seen.
The glossy piano black frame and base are highly reflective, and a little distracting compared to monitors with a matt casing, but at least the screen itself has a matt finish. We dislike the garish - and unnecessary - LED and 1080p Full HD logos on the bezel and we don't much like the touch-sensitive controls on the right-hand side either. Unlike LG's controls, ViewSonic's don't light up, but they're quite responsive.
It's refreshing not to find pointless colour effects in the menu, or other meaningless 'technologies'. Instead, you have all the basic controls for colour, brightness and contrast. You can select various colour temperatures, or control the red, green and blue levels independently. When you're not in the menu, you can hit the '2' key to switch between the VGA and DVI inputs, or the up/down arrows to increase or decrease volume.
ViewSonic VX2250wm-LED
It isn't immediately obvious that the VX2250wm-LED has speakers, since they're built into the rear of the case, facing the ceiling. They're loud enough for Windows sounds, but few people will be happy with their quality for music or even YouTube videos.
The good news is that you'll be happy with the image quality. Unlike some LED-based monitors we've seen, contrast was good. Subtly different shades of the same colour were easy to distinguish from each other, and vertical viewing angles are better than we'd expect from a screen of this type. Horizontal viewing angles aren't the best, but you'll see accurate colours as long as you're sitting roughly square-on.
Colours aren't as vibrant as those on glossy monitors, but the lack of reflections far outweighs this minor downside. In any case, colours are lifelike and we'd be happy to edit photos and video on the VX2250wm-LED. Brightness is the only slight weakness, but you'd only notice that it isn't quite bright enough in the sunniest room.
The real advantage of an LED monitor is its power consumption: we measured only 21W with the brightness set to maximum. That's around half the power a 22in monitor with a traditional cold cathode backlight would use. One other bonus is the auto power off feature which switches the monitor off when it isn't being used.
Unfortunately for ViewSonic, BenQ's LED-based G2222HDL costs around £15 less than the VX2250wm-LED, has better image quality and is more stylish to boot. Unless you can find the ViewSonic cheaper, the G2222HDL is narrowly the better choice.
Verdict:
Good image quality, but the design isn't particularly attractive and it costs a little more than the competition.
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That seems far too simplistic. I wouldn't pay much attention to a review of a BenQ monitor that talks about the preset options without mentioning how absolutely atrocious they make the image. Sounds like exactly what I said in my previous post - VX2250WM has more natural, accurate and more varied colours with better distinctions, whereas the G2222HDL offers greater vibrancy. Now whilst I'm a fan of vibrancy I imagine the panel to be similar to the G2420HDBL. There are too many flaws in the image for a blanket statement like 'has better image quality' to apply when comparing to the ViewSonic. Has better vibrancy and decent image quality would be more applicable I think.
