thinking about getting a quadstick gaming controller

[Threepwood]

long story short, I can't use my left hand, but I can use my right, this means that I can use my mouse, but I cannot use WASD to move around,
there is a gamer called 'Rocky no hands' who cannot use either hand , but he seems to manage alright with just the quadstick controller,
So, I'm wondering if mixing the two along with a many buttoned mouse could bring me back to gaming awesomeness,


I'm looking at this version HERE
It's not exactly cheap, but I can save $549.00 over time, np
Maybe I could add a foot pedal too, but I've got no idea how easy function mapping that will be, even the buttons on a many buttoned mouse can be difficult to map properly
I just want to be able to play PUBG. and DAY Z with my old gaming partner
lol.

 

[Threepwood]

At first glance that appears to be horribly expensive for what appears to be a joystick gimble with a few pneumatic/sip/puff sensors (these could be the expensive part I reckon, too tired to drop down that rabbit hole on google right now) cobbled together with some pipes and 3d printed parts, supply and demand I guess but darn... I'm unemployed at the moment, I wonder how much of a market there is for these and should I make some and undercut them? (I've not got the skills to make it good to be honest so I'm dreaming lol...).

there is no joystick, just 3 blow holes that can be used individually, left, right ,middle, or in combination, all 3 at the same time, or middle plus left/middle plus right together, there is a lip sensor too, that you put your lips over the top and the bottom of, i'm thinking reload.
I'm tired too, see you tomorrow!

 

[Threepwood]

Guy I've watch a bit uses a similar device (possibly customised?), he's in the US I think but I ocassionally catch him streaming and say hello. He's honestly very skillful, his FPS is shocking good, he seems to have gotten it the way that works for him.

D “DFizziL” FizziL

From Casual to Sweaty gaming DFiZZiL plays a wide variety of games all while using his mouth to operate a special controller. Join us as we conquer games and other players proving anyone can play!

www.youtube.com

Might be worth trying to catch him live as he seems like a lovely guy, doesn't get many viewers sadly as he's not got his bits out.

yeah, he is on a quadstick too!I'm tempted to stream with a really large bra on, with two pink balloons in there

 

[Threepwood]

The version you have linked quite clearly has a joystick gimble. So you literally just want control of buttons? Are something like the Sony or XBox accessibility controller not options at all? Depends on if you can use foot control or whole hand maybe? I don't know and could be speaking well out of turn here.

Access controller | A customisable, adaptive controller kit for PS5

Introducing the Access controller for PS5, a customisable and adaptive controller kit to make gaming more accessible to disabled gamers.

www.playstation.com

Xbox Adaptive Controller | Xbox

Connect switches, buttons, joysticks and mounts to create a custom controller experience that is uniquely yours.

www.xbox.com

you're right, sorry, I was watching a guy explain it all, but I think that I only caught the bit explaining the tubes

 

[Threepwood]

What about one of these? Can be ordered for left or right hand.

https://store.azeron.eu/azeron-keypads

sadly no use to me as I need to keep my right hand free for mouse movement, and I could not use one with my left hand, they are for super quick button pressing reducing travel time to press a button, for competetive gaming, I use to use a razer left hand keyboard for the same results, when I was normal, it was great, and I would reccomend one too
thank you for the thought though!

Neural Wristband might be an option for the left hand use as it should be oerating nerv impulse instead of actual movement.
might be worth a further look into.
or use of : tobii eye tracking
in combination with something like : Voice Attack
as 3 other items to see if you can use or integrte with.
good on you though for not giving up and carry on gaming

neural wristband is a no for me, sadly, because I dont have any nerve signals going to my left arm, all the motor neurons that did that are dead now, my main brain still tries to tell those missing motor neurons to work, but, no dice, it is like trying to turn a light on without using a light switch!
I've thought about the eye tracking before, but I just cannot fathom, how I would get that to replace WASD,
voice attack has reminded me that it can be used for elite dangerous, but again, I need to figure out a replacement for WASD to fly the ship! I hear that elite dangerous has a flight assist mode too though, maybe using that along with voice attack would work
thank you very much for the thoughts I really want to play day z most of all, with my mate, and eldest son but I'm sure that I could have some fun in elite too

 

[Threepwood]

A decent flightstick could be used one handed. Get the right one and you could have axes on the base for X and Y, another pair on an analogue hat and even a Z axis twist. With the other digital buttons, that would help control a complex game.
I can't say that I'd want to try to play an FPS with one, but otherwise, it might help.

thanks,I couldn't use one, my left arm, and hand doesn't work, and I need to keep my right hand free for a mouse, but I'll think about maybe combining a flightstick with an eye tracker, that might just work!

 

[Threepwood]

This is far away still but something to keep an eye on: https://inputlabs.io/kapybara

Pretty neat, but how would I use it? oh I see, eyes to replace mouse, and that controller to replace wasd in right hand!

 

[Threepwood]

that looks/sounds promising mountaincow.
i remember there was a one handed doom 2016 player that was popular for a short time and completed the game. i'll try find the info on that later
eye tracking

that's shroud in the clip.(well known excellent pubg player) he has both hands and is still using his left hand to move around and right hand to use the mouse, pretty obvious by the pro flicks in the video, no way can you flick like that with an eye tracker it was just a special episode to show how he looked around the screen while playing, utilising the tobii to do so, you cannot lean like he does without the keyboard lean buttons,( I have checked, tobii cannot do that for you when you lean your head with the head tracking
"Shroud I like the eye tracker. It is extremely useful as a newb to see where your eyes are looking at any given time.Very high potential as a teaching tool. I showed some friends who aren't into games and the eye tracker helped them understand how intense the game is" (6 years ago), damn I miss the game, I had 3600.4 hours invested in that,

I'm sure that at my best I could have given even shroud a run for his money, maybe even wacky jacky, but I'm probably dreaming there, Wacky would pull all the stops out of the bag, and whack the bejebus out of me, but I'd've held my own for sure

 

[Threepwood]

UPDATE:
I have decided to get a tobii eye tracker, if only to play with, while I wait for the quad stick to get back in stock
elite dangerous will become my new game, or I will just have to play Day Z at a slower pace than I would like! I'm sure that I'll be able to get into the spirit of DayZ
definitely thinking about getting a flight stick too
thank you for everyone's ideas here, I really appreciate you all.

 

[Threepwood]

Wasn’t there a charity out there that helped less able gamers?

There was also a member who was maybe paralysed from the neck down who had something similar and was better than me at all the games I saw him play

yes, I've already been through them, they gave me a razer mouse that had a lot of buttons that had zero tactile feedback to diffentiate between them all, and it broke a couple of months later, the great thing about it was the mousewheel could be tilted left and right to give an extra two easy buttons , I had to replace it, but that version of the mouse was no longer available, so I had to give up the cool left/right wheel mouse buttons, and just be left with a bunch of unidentifiable buttons on the side!
they gave a a bunch of plug in buttons too, but I don't have much to press them with, so that was a none starter, I tried using my right foot but it felt like I was going to break the cheap plastic!
some company out there needs to design a mouse that has an extra 3 easily identifiable buttons on the side, but with the tilt mouse wheel left/right as a button too
I think that I will end up getting a pedal though
today, I bought a tobii eyetracker 5, and a flight stick, I'm going to have a mess with those and then introduce a/some pedals, along with voice attack, elite dangerous was also on sale today, so I nabbed the deluxe version too

 

[Threepwood]

thanks man, I appreciate the tip, I went for THIS stick @ £39.99, but I'm still not exactly sure how many buttons it has, maybe voice attack, will have a voice command for that, if I cannot find a spare function button on the stick!

 

[Threepwood]

Hopefully your new set up works well though!

Thanks, me too!
the eye tracker arrived today, so I will have a play with that as soon as my mum gets back to help me attach the camera/IR part to the bottom of my monitor
rhe flightstick arrives on monday, so i'll hop into elite then

 

[Threepwood]

h sorry you didn't have that much luck with them!

It's cool, it's notl ike they can work miracles
They try and do something for everyone, and I can see how bunging me a multi button mouse may have seemed like a good idea, which it was except for it breaking so soon!

 

[Threepwood]

ust throwing it out there in case it hadn't been considered.

yes, that is something that I have considered a lot for my right foot, it's just that the three main makes for that always seem to be out of stock, and we are looking at pedals really, nobody has come up with a proper foot controller like you have though of i it's been a while since I looked again, but they are all out of stock, so thank you for reminding me to keep awatch on those, and for making me look for some alternatives, I think that I could get along with this okay,
at the end of the day, I just have to keep on trying new stuff until everything clicks, I'll be truely happy when I get a pubg chicken dinner for the first time after falling ill, my very two last games were back to back wins, maybe one day I'll get another back to back win, then put it on you tube for everyone to watch, wouldn't that be something, one chicken dinner at a time though, baby steps

 

[Threepwood]

well this is going well, not,
mum installed the mount well yesterday, after watching a video, that only made her more nervous to start with, it hardily fills one with confidence installing this, esp for someone who is still quite new to computer stuff, like many a person, who will be helping someone who is disabled, take a look here, watch it from the start, and tell me what you think!
I'm having problems though, it says that no sensor has been found, really annoying, I hope it is not broke on arrival, that would take the mick, considering it cost £200, though it was packed well!
Now the internet has sent me down the rabbit hole of looking at usb settings in device manager, but all the usb controllers look the same
it does make the connect/disconnect noise when unplugging it and plugging it back in, so there is hope..
pants!
EDIT: halle-bloody -lujah, it works!, i think I might have been taking too much power from one usb controller, as soon as I had the keyboard, which is a power hungry light up one, moved to the usb ports from a main board usd, to a usb splitter that is connected to the usb2 pins on the board, it detected the eyechip in device manager and then it worked with the tobii software!

 

[Threepwood]

and it was no hassle.

it's definately my light up keyboard hogging power on the same USB host, I had to have mum try multiple ports to get all my devices working without cutting the power to the tobii, but now, my lighted mouse mat, lighted keyboard, and lighted mouse are all on and glowing with the tobii working at the same time, I think the tobii eas not expecting to be on a usb controller that had so much power being sucked up, that's all I did, was unplug the lighted keyboard and the thing got recognised, go figure

 

[Threepwood]

well it never rains but it pours, not only did I waste half the day getting the eye tracker to work, I then wasted the other half by downloading elite to try,
But! since I went ahead, and bought the deluxe version on steam because I thought why not, it's on sale,
the game thought that I was an elite pro who wanted to play the oodyssey dlc
this threw me straight into the odyssey tutorial, which was pretty difficult one handed, but I wasted hours of time doing it, thinking that it was the real tutorialand I think that made me skip the real game tutorial,
now I have unistalled the game and unchecked the dlc from the game in steam, I just hope that it will allow me to take it as if I have never played the main game before
oh man, this is all so tough!
I'll just see what happens
just plod on like a good little soldier

 

[Threepwood]

whats your plan for using it?

I want to get elite working with it for the immersion factor, I've always been a fan of space stuff and I played the original OG elite for many hours back in the day, on BBC, C64, and amiga, even elite frontier on the amiga too,
when I have the eyetracker working with elite dangerous, alongside voice attack, and a flight stick, I'm then going to stream some of it too, see If I can start getting a small following >. <

 

[Threepwood]

If the steam version launches the Frontier launcher all you need to do it hit the 'Versions' button at the bottom left side and pick which version you want to play. When you start there is a section titled training when you pick open, private, solo etc that has all the training missions available.

wish, i'd have asked now before deleting it, gonna have to go to bed while it all downloads again, do you mind if I DM you in the future about the game if I ever need some advice, I promise not to plague you with questions!?

 

[Threepwood]

How about a mouse that also has a joystick axis... and a ton of buttons?

Swiftpoint Z2: Most Advanced Mouse for Gaming and Productivity

The World's Most Advanced Gaming and Productivity Mouse. With 13 customizable buttons, deep-click technology, a built-in gyroscope, haptic feedback, RGB and a world-class software suite - it truly is the world's most advanced computer mouse!

www.swiftpoint.co.uk

It has interchangable feet (magnetic, so easily one-handable) for either L-R tilt, or full 4-way tilting.
13 extra buttons, to assign various commands, 5 of which are pressure-sensitive deep click too.
OLED display, haptic feedback, on board memory and plenty of other good stuff.

I'll get one myself when I have the money.
It's on sale now, too...

That's a great spot, I'm totally willing to try that out, as soon as I have the money. they ship from New Zealand which is a tad dissapointing too