• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

Thinking about upgrading to a 5870

Soldato
Joined
17 Dec 2004
Posts
8,741
How much of a bottleneck would I have if I bought a 5870 and how much performance would I gain going from my 3870? system in sig

My plan is to use the card until games start to struggle over a few yrs and use it in a few builds. Also Im planning to buy a 27"+ monitor that uses a res of 1920x1200, at the same time as buying the card

Also would this or the 2gb version fit in my antec 900......

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-230-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1502
 
Your Corsair 620w should be sufficient to run one :) , can't comment on the case fitment question though sorry.
 
The HD5870 is rated at about 188 TDP (2x 6 pins for extra juice) but since your running a Corsair/Seasonic 620 Watt you needn't batter an eye lid.

As for performance improvements a Hd4870 was about 50% faster then a Hd3870 and Hd5870 is about 85% quicker then a Hd4870 so this is no small upgrade.
 
Ive just got reviews of the power consumption and Im amazed...

3870 at idle: 133watts
3870 at load: 217watts

5870 at idle: 100watts
5870 at load: 237watts

Is this right???
 
I would'nt bother with the 2GB version either 1GB is fine for 1920x1200. The 3870 has a max powerdraw of 55watts compared to 188 watts for the 5870.
 
Last edited:
I just picked up a 5870 on an open box buy for 310$ Got today and its furmark stable and runs fine so I am a happy camper. Gonna grab all 3 monitors in my house and hook it up tomorrow for some awesomeness! I love this particular cooler even at 50% fan speed I cant here it over my 800rpm- 120mm fans. Only downside is it is not a sealed cooler design so no proper exhaust out the back. It is even quieter then my gtx260 which was the quietest stock card I have owned in a decade. Ati has really fixed their 2d power and fan noise this generation.

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131336

Here is how I see the future of high end.

I had strongly debated waiting for the "southern Islands" 6k series of cards which comes out late this fall. With no price pressure from Nvidia I expect 6k prices will be high probably 350$- 6850 and 450$- for 6870. Current gen probably drop to 5850-200$ and 5870-250$'ish.

6k series are hybrid of 5800 and the future architecture 7800 but still at 40nm. For the 6k cards I expect at most 30-40% performance increase over 58xx but with plus 20% power. They are meant as a stopgap because of the cancellation of TSMC and GF 32nm process.

Global foundries 28nm is doing well and Northern Islands might be another September launch in 2011. I expect low and mid range cards at 28nm in early-mid 2011.

My plan is to use my cheap 5870 to skip 6k series and hold on until the true next gen 28nm architecture 7k series comes in late 2011. If 7k gets delayed I will probably add a second 5870 for then about 150$ and hold on through the extra fall-winter-spring months when crossfire is doable for me.

In short If you care about noise and power like I do then Nvidia is in a ditch for awhile like Intel was with "press-hott" 65nm P4. The 6k wont blow away the 5800 on price or performance and the next die shrink and new arch is almost a year and half away. So unless you are a super serious gamer a good deal on a 58xx series will hold you fine for sometime.

-that no 6k cards were seen at computex means either a very late fall launch for 6k or that ATI is locked down regarding 6k and really trying to leave Nvidia in the dark in an attempt to catch them off-guard with launch numbers.
 
Last edited:
If I get a 5870, I will run it into the ground like Ive done with me 3870 and only think about upgrading when games start to chug. Like all games still run nice and smoothly at med - high detail at 1280x1024 even BC2 runs real smooth all set on high detail. But I dont think games will run to great at 1920x1200 when I get a larger screen, I will be kind of sad to ditch my 3870, cos its been a dam good card over the 3yrs that Ive had it.
 
If I get a 5870, I will run it into the ground like Ive done with me 3870 and only think about upgrading when games start to chug. Like all games still run nice and smoothly at med - high detail at 1280x1024 even BC2 runs real smooth all set on high detail. But I dont think games will run to great at 1920x1200 when I get a larger screen, I will be kind of sad to ditch my 3870, cos its been a dam good card over the 3yrs that Ive had it.

I have very similar setup to yours, same CPU, different mobo tho, is Abit, but its IX38 quad GT. I went from 3870x2.

I clock my E8400 to 3.8 and i have noticed great improvements with 5870.
 
Id overclock my cpu a tad more if I could but I think the 8gb or the speed of the mem is holding it back cos intel burn test fails at 3.8. But it could be the cpu cos its the old type of E8400.

But at the end of the day, just aslong as it runs games nice and smoothly with decent graphics, why bother overclocking the cpu more, cos you wont notice much diff will you. Plus those times are gone where I look at my "frames per seconds" all the time and benchmark to get the highest score as poss.:D
 
Back
Top Bottom