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Thinking of moving from a 680 to a 7970

spoffle said:
Realistically, the best choice if you are happy to spend out a bit more, would be to sell the 680 and get 2x 7950s as has been suggested, sale of the 680 would fund the majority of the cost to swap anyway, and you'd get significantly more performance.
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He's wanting it for 3D though, CrossFire in Tridef can throw up a few negative scaling titles-Kingdoms of Amular-Alan Wake, there way well be a few more that I don't play, on the other hand it works on the whole in 3D though, but just letting melmac know. :)

spoffle said:
It's funny isn't it? Most people who talk smack about AMD do so whilst openly admitting that they haven't got an AMD card in their computer, and some even say they've never used one, apparently, due to "all the problems" that they apparently have.
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+1,

there is one thing for example yourself and I disagreeing on PhysX and after a few words threw gritted teeth, I can respect your opinion now, as it's your opinion, opinions differ from said posters posting as fact.

Your explanation sums up this/every other forum etc, anti AMD stance coming from the vast majority of the types of said posting.

There was a user here posting a reply in a recommendation thread which went along the lines of:

'AMD drivers are pathetic, they fail on this, that, utter terrible.
I'm in the same boat as the op I'm thinking about upgrading my 8800GTX'

So when did that user actually use an AMD gpu?

I'm now getting told(in the other thread I'm wrong that the 680 was faster(even overclocked) up to 12.11's even though evidence is there from April/May from a Galaxy(Nvidia) sponsored site that they were even because they only rely on 'user data' which, when I provide user data to back up what I say is then ignored by said user.
 
I have run a 430 with AMD for Physx, it ran no issues with a 7970 seemed powerful enough while not consuming lots of power, and now run a GT 630 which is even better. they both seem powerful enough in my eyes. Of course a 460 will trounce the 430/630 but you'd expect it too.

For me having a card that only sometimes gets used and doe's a perfect job with Physx was the key , a gtx 460 is too power hungry and hot for a part time card.
 
tommybhoy said:
I'm now getting told(in the other thread I'm wrong that the 680 was faster(even overclocked) up to 12.11's even though evidence is there from April/May from a Galaxy(Nvidia) sponsored site that they were even because they only rely on 'user data' which, when I provide user data to back up what I say is then ignored by said user.
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Oh dear, Tommy. :D :D

Are you letting this spiral into ANOTHER thread? Give it a rest, please.

You provided questionable "user data" on 7950 -> 7970 not 680/7970. Nice try.

On PhysX, IMO it's not worth it. The effects on Borderlands 2 are pretty decent but other than that I haven't been overly impressed. If somebody is weighing up the options, the best option - honestly - is to watch some normal gameplay videos showing the effects and THEN weigh it up if it's worth it.

Watching these "OMGWTFBBQ" videos on PhysX is misleading because they're often just condensing the effects which are often quite sparse into a 2 minute video.
 
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Me and PGI ran BF3 clock for clock prior to 12.11 and then again after. In this game, BF3 was faster on the 680 till the 12.11. This was at the most used resolution of 1080P.

The 12.11 drivers was the only time the 7970 pulled ahead of the 680.
 
nitram100 said:
I don't think that works with the new version of Physx that Planetside 2 uses?
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That's right. Physx 3.0 can't be run on hybrid systems without modifying game files. With most games now updating and checking the integrity of important files during launch it's going to pretty much kill of hybrid Physx.

tommybhoy said:
Afaik wolvers, the 12.3 HDMI driver in the CCC package works without changing anything else.:)
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I tried the HDMI driver from a previous version version (11.12 IIRC) without this issue and it didn't fix it. All drivers from 12.1 onwards have this issue for me. Increasing idle clocks is the only thing that worked.
 
OK, sorry for taking so long to get back to this thread.

I went and tried 3D again, to try and get my 680 working with the Samsung SA700D monitor using 3D vision, not tridef. Tridef is easy to get working but SBS is not great.

The previous problems I had was constant crashes or a totally unresponsive system as my computer slowly ground to a halt anytime I turned on 3D in the nvidia control panel. This was before I started a game at all. I tried a few different modified inf's to get it working, but they all failed.

Except this time, the ASUS HN274HB monitor.inf worked!! So I got frame sequential 3D working on my monitor in games. It looks really good, CS:GO was amazing with it. Now I would love to try 3D surround gaming!!

It's not the reason I want to change, but, somebody asked earlier (tommybhoy I think) about setting it up and would it work. Well it does, the new inf file solves all the problems :-)

I still got an upgrade itch!! Titan is just out of reach and you cant get SA700D's anymore. It's just a major cost no matter which way I look!! Damn :-(
 
Hmm the frametime benching is interesting and a step above what you get from most review sites atm. I'll look out for that when researching future upgrades. Good find.
 
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