Thinking of Vista..

bledd · 3 Oct 2008 at 13:54

check your email

MarcLister · 3 Oct 2008 at 13:58

bledd. said:
you could use remote desktop (part of ultimate and business)

vnc does work fine on vista though

make sure you get 4gb or 8gb ram, with at least dual-core

home premium doesn't have remote desktop (without a hack anyway), but has media centre
business has remote desktop, but NO media centre

ultimate has both, but has a load of other crap bundled in too..

Useful thread this!

Covers what I wanted to know.

Going to be building a new PC soon. Will be a Q9550 on an Asus P5Q-E. Probably 8Gb RAM for a laugh.

However I'll still want to use my current PC. I can either buy another keyboard for it and use a spare USB mouse so I can use both independently. Course this is just faffing around. I think Remote Desktop would let me use my new PC to control my old (current) PC yes? So I either have to get Vista Ultimate and vLite it to remove crap and stuff I don't need or I can get a program to do this for me like VNC? Personally using Vista Remote Desktop sounds better to me. So do I need Vista Ultimate? Or what is this hack? Safe hack or dodgy? I can easily pay the extra for the Vista Ultimate OEM.

konam4 · 3 Oct 2008 at 14:02

I use maya 8.5, maya 2008, realflow, maxwell render photoshop and a few other graphics type programs and have been on vista home premium (64) for a year and it's sa smooth as a pint of boddingtons

q6600 + 8GB of ram just makes maya very snappy and make sure you go 64bit on the programs.

platypus · 3 Oct 2008 at 14:04

Much appreciated bledd.

And good to hear Konam, I will do!

this_is_gav · 3 Oct 2008 at 15:06

MarcLister said:
However I'll still want to use my current PC. I can either buy another keyboard for it and use a spare USB mouse so I can use both independently. Course this is just faffing around. I think Remote Desktop would let me use my new PC to control my old (current) PC yes? So I either have to get Vista Ultimate and vLite it to remove crap and stuff I don't need or I can get a program to do this for me like VNC?

Yup, you could do it that way. Ultimate's not got that much crap in it. Most of it is the Ultimate Extras (which are pretty naff, but hardly bloated), and you can just choose not to download them.

VNC is an alternative approach to Remote Desktop though, not something for stripping the OS.

I've not even bothered downloading vLite. I doubt I'll ever use it. nLite yes, but probably never vLite.

MarcLister · 3 Oct 2008 at 15:55

Cheers Gav. Would you say getting Vista Ultimate and using Remote Desktop would be better than getting Vista Home Premium and using VNC? I think it would. Makes sense to me to use a built-in MS util rather than download something to do the same thing.

swinnie · 3 Oct 2008 at 16:03

MarcLister said:
Cheers Gav. Would you say getting Vista Ultimate and using Remote Desktop would be better than getting Vista Home Premium and using VNC? I think it would. Makes sense to me to use a built-in MS util rather than download something to do the same thing.

Marc,

If you want to control your old PC you could get Home Premium on your new machine and still remote desktop into your old PC, providing it is running XP Pro.

Remote Desktop Still exists in Vista Home Premium, just not the 'server' part.

MarcLister · 3 Oct 2008 at 16:06

swinnie said:
Marc,

If you want to control your old PC you could get Home Premium on your new machine and still remote desktop into your old PC, providing it is running XP Pro.

Remote Desktop Still exists in Vista Home Premium, just not the 'server' part.

Oooh good news.

So what is the RD server then? What does that offer that the Vista HP RD doesn't have? Just interested!

So I can get Home Premium with Vista HP as standard? No hacks or anything?

swinnie · 3 Oct 2008 at 16:10

MarcLister said:
Oooh good news. So what is the RD server then? What does that offer that the Vista HP RD doesn't have? Just interested!

So I can get Home Premium with Vista HP as standard? No hacks or anything?

Well, from what I understand the RD Server is integrated into XP Professional, Vista Business, and Vista Ultimate. You can remote desktop from any version of windows (Windows 2000 upwards I believe...) to an XP Pro, Vista Business or Vista Ultimate PC, with Remote Desktop Connections allowed. Just simply type "mstsc" in the run box, and hit enter.

So, providing your old PC is running XP Pro, and Remote Desktop is enabled on there from the My Computer Properties, under the Remote Tab, you can remotely control the PC from any other Windows box.

I think I've got that right.

RoachycaL · 3 Oct 2008 at 16:25

platypus said:
I'll definitely be getting a 64bit version, but am after a bit more application advice.

Not decided between ultimate/home premium yet, anyone have experience of both? Is Ultimate overkill?

Just wondering what peoples experience of things like Photoshop, 3dmax, Maya are? I also need to be able to log into my pc remotely from work, anyone here use uvnc on vista?

Just some words of advice for when you first install it - for a few days it probably will run slowley because a service called "superfetch" will be working out what programs you use more frequently on your pc and dumps them in the ram ready for use (I think). There are so many people Ive come across that have installed vista and not given it enough of a chance because for the first few days of use its trying to get its head around your usage habits

MarcLister · 3 Oct 2008 at 16:29

swinnie said:
Well, from what I understand the RD Server is integrated into XP Professional, Vista Business, and Vista Ultimate. You can remote desktop from any version of windows (Windows 2000 upwards I believe...) to an XP Pro, Vista Business or Vista Ultimate PC, with Remote Desktop Connections allowed. Just simply type "mstsc" in the run box, and hit enter.

So, providing your old PC is running XP Pro, and Remote Desktop is enabled on there from the My Computer Properties, under the Remote Tab, you can remotely control the PC from any other Windows box.

I think I've got that right.

Cheers. I shall investigate further and confirm that.

XP Pro SP3 here.

Edit: Found

You cannot use Remote Desktop Connection to connect to computers running Windows Vista Starter, Windows Vista Home Basic, Windows Vista Home Basic N, or Windows Vista Home Premium. You can, however, connect from those editions of Windows Vista to computers running other versions of Windows.

from http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-GB/help/02ddfbec-7a97-4788-9d54-86f174a95f841033.mspx.