This bundle ok, or something better on here ?

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This bundle ok, or something better on here ? - couple new changes

I'm about to upgrade my current spec pc, which has an Asus P5b mainboard, with a Quadcore intel 2.4 ghz, & 6 GB ram.

I just bought two of the 2TB seagates of here, and am about to buy a 256GB SSD for my OS (win 7), a new decent PSU, that ATI Radeon HD 7850 2048MB, and a blue ray writer to create some backups (after my seagate 1.5TB died suddenly).

Now, i've seen this upgrade somewhere else which i thought was nice as it has quite a bit of RAM : Intel i5 3570k @ 4.4GHz - Asus P8Z77-V LX - 16GB Corsair DDR3 Overclocked Gaming Bundle. Which consists off :

* Intel Core I5 3570K 3.4Ghz Quad Core Ivybridge CPU Processor - BX80637I53570K - Socket 1155
* Asus P8Z77-V LX Intel Z77 DDR3 ATX HDMI Motherboard - Socket 1155
* Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 High Performance CPU Cooler
* 16GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600MHz RAM Memory

Now i had a look on here, but didn't see many similar options with 16GB of ram for the price i'm after (£ 350, - 370,).

I'm not too fussed about it being overclocked or not, as i know not much about it and not overclocked anything myself yet, i just want a nice fast machine to play the lateste games.

I also don't mind getting a good mainboard, cpu and memory seperate if that would make it easier.

Most bundles on here i've seen have less RAM and i've read that if you buy an overclocked bundle you can't just add more memory afterwards. Or am i focussing to much on the memory and should i look at other things more ?

Also if you think the above bundle is good value for money please say so, i'm spending quite a bit of money on here these 2 months anyway so i'm sure they won't mind.
 
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Cheers for that. So that bundle is better then i one i listed above ?

If those memory modules are only thirty quid i'll probably add another 8GB taking it upto 16 then.

I've just noticed that board has "2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors" and i'll have 3 6GB sata items i want to connect (2x HD, 1x SSD), is there a similar board with more sata 6GB ports ?
 
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Medic-one said:
Cheers for that. So that bundle is better then i one i listed above ?

If those memory modules are only thirty quid i'll probably add another 8GB taking it upto 16 then.

I've just noticed that board has "2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors" and i'll have 3 6GB sata items i want to connect (2x HD, 1x SSD), is there a similar board with more sata 6GB ports ?
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Stick the HDD's+optical drives on the SATAII ports, they cant make use of SATAIII speeds.
 
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Stick the HDD's+optical drives on the SATAII ports, they cant make use of SATAIII speeds.
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The blue ray writer and my other 2 HD's will go on the SataII ports, but with the sataIII version of that crucial M4 SSD being nearly £ 50, more expensive then the sataII version surely it must be able to use the higher sataIII speeds ?

And the same with my new 2TB seagate's i've just bought of here, they are SATAIII too, hence i'd want them on a sataIII port and not a sataII one.
 
Put the SSD on a SATAIII port.

The SATAIII HDDs cant even make full use of SATAII bandwidth so you wont be losing anything.
 
Been looking a bit more into this Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard [GA-Z77X-D3H] board, and on some websites it just says :

4 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors
4 x SATA 3Gb/s connectors
1 x mSATA 3Gb/s (Disables sata connector 5 when in use)
2 x eSATA 6Gb/s on back panel


But on others i read this :


Chipset:

- 2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors (SATA3 0/SATA3 1) supporting up to 2 SATA 6Gb/s devices
- 4 x SATA 3Gb/s connectors (SATA2 2~SATA2 5) supporting up to 4 SATA 3Gb/s devices
- 1 x mSATA connector

* The SATA2 5 connector will become unavailable when the mSATA connector is installed with a solid state drive.

- Support for RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, and RAID 10
* When a RAID set is built across the SATA 6Gb/s and SATA 3Gb/s channels, the system performance of the RAID set may vary depending on the devices being connected.

1 x Marvell 88SE9172 chip:

- 2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors (GSATA3 6/GSATA3 7) supporting up to 2 SATA 6Gb/s devices
- Support for RAID 0 and RAID 1


So does it have 2 chipsets then, each with sata 6GB connectors, or how does it work ?
All i want is at least 3 Sata 6GB connectors (for my new harddrives and my ssd) and 4 Sata 3GB connectors (for my other 2 drives and my blueray writer)
 
So does it have 2 chipsets then
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Yes.

The Gigabyte Z77X-D3H has 8 SATA ports.

2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors from the Intel chipset (white)
4 x SATA 3Gb/s connectors from the Intel chipset (black)
2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors from a Marvell 88SE9172 chip (grey)

You should connect the SSD to an Intel SATA 6Gb/s as that's the best.

The rest of the drives you can connect how you like as no current HDD requires the bandwidth of SATA 6Gb/s.
 
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Cheers for that.

Seen a few board now that have this marvel chip with some extra ports. Why aren't they as good as the intel ports, are they slower ? Or different/lower quality ?
 
stulid said:
YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £81.98
1 x Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9) £29.99
1 x Xigmatek Achilles II SD1284 CPU-Cooler - 120mm (Socket LGA775/1155/1156/1366 AMD AM2/AM3/FM1) £23.98
Total : £332.34 (includes shipping : £9.50).

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Done a bit of overtime this month so happy to spend a bit more, so i've taken your list from above and just looked at the items you quoted, and then on most just gone for a slightly better version, and came up with this :

1 x Intel Core i7-3770 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor £ 239,
1 x Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard [GA-Z77X-D3H] £ 112.99
1 x Patriot Intel Extreme Masters 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Quad Channel Kit £ 59,99 (this week)
1 x Xigmatek Aegir SD 128264 CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/1155/1156/1366/2011/AMD AM2/AM3/FM1) [CAC-SXHH6-U03] £ 37,99
Total : £462.36 (includes shipping : £9.50).


Now i do have a few questions about this, the I5 and I7 cpu's both run at 3.40 GHZ, is it worth paying the extra money for the I7 over the I5 for this ?

And for the memory, i went for quad channel instead of dual channel, just because it sounds faster :D Does that go well together with the mainboard ?

I looked it 2 Xigmatek cpu coolers, one stating it was tricky to insert, and this one stating it was easy to install, so i gone for the easy option.

Is this a good little bundle i've gone for, or would you change some thing(s) on it ? I don't mind paying 20-30 quid more, but i do need to keep some money left to play with to buy a nice GFU and power supply.
 
mmm, just read this : "For gaming, and future gaming, theres no point in the i7 at all. Games still for the most part are not utilizing the 4 physical cores of a quad CPU, let alone the virtual ones of the i7"

Back to the drawing board it is!
 
Also worth noting you have gone for a 3770 rather than the 3770K.

The difference here is non K versions do not allow multiplier overclocking.

If your only gaming then go for the 3570K and use the money you have saved for a decent cooler and push that CPU to 4.4-4.8Ghz. This will give you a far better gain than having hyper threading for gaming.

If you have other uses for the machine where HT will help then spend a few quid more and go for a K version of the 3770.

There really isn't much point in going for a non K version of those chips, especially when your buying a Z series board.
 
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