This is stupid and uncalled for

DarkShadow · 30 Sep 2006 at 15:04

memphisto said:
I still think the fundamental problem with Islam is that mohammed went into the desert and wrote the kuran from what was spoken to him from his god.

Who is this God, for all we know it could have been Daffy Duck / Mickey Mouse even Hitler.

fo a religon which began under these conditions it simply cannot be a good start.

Produce 1 Ayah (Verse) like the Qur'an and I will leave Islam.

ElRazur · 30 Sep 2006 at 15:09

dark_shadow said:
Produce 1 Ayah (Verse) like the Qur'an and I will leave Islam.

Do you mean a verse from any religion holy book? or from the quran itself? Perhaps you will ignore/dismiss it as non-relevant or inferior when comapred to the quran...?

DarkShadow · 30 Sep 2006 at 15:21

ElRazur said:
Do you mean a verse from any religion holy book? or from the quran itself? Perhaps you will ignore/dismiss it as non-relevant or inferior when comapred to the quran...?

The Qur'an of course.

DarkShadow · 30 Sep 2006 at 15:28

Freedom said:
Yea i am stupid, My religion tells me to bomb thousands of innocent people.

Im to scared to say what im really thinking in case i get banned.

I'd be ashamed if I was 26 years old and making comments as such.

ElRazur · 30 Sep 2006 at 15:28

dark_shadow said:
The Qur'an of course.

Perhaps you should rephrase that original question please....You want him to produce a verse like the quran but then you wont accept other alternatives or are trying to say he can read the quran....im lost.

DarkShadow · 30 Sep 2006 at 15:32

ElRazur said:
Perhaps you should rephrase that original question please....You want him to produce a verse like the quran but then you wont accept other alternatives or are trying to say he can read the quran....im lost.

Surely it wouldn't take that long assuming it's man made.

toy_soldier · 30 Sep 2006 at 15:38

Just out of interest, what does Sharia law say about other religions being practiced in muslim countries etc? Do non muslim people have the same rights as muslims and get special treatment, like here in the UK?

by special treatment I mean things having to be politically correct nowadays etc

daveydave · 30 Sep 2006 at 15:38

shifty_uk said:
Do you think it would make the BBC headlines if it got dumped outside a Christian church?

wouldnt be relavant outside a christian church....b4 u typie message..thinkie a lil bit champ

ElRazur · 30 Sep 2006 at 15:57

dark_shadow said:
Surely it wouldn't take that long assuming it's man made.

Oh you mean to fake one as the real thing? If that's the case my nigerian brothers can pull that off - just ask the banks about those cheques....

Seriously, i have read about how antiques can be made and it will produce a carbon-dating of thousand of years but it is very expensive and not worth it, perhaps things have changed now and we will see more of this later in the near future.

Similar method is used to make cheap diamonds and if you aint an expert on diamond, you will pass them for the real thing.

ElRazur · 30 Sep 2006 at 15:58

toy_soldier said:
by special treatment I mean things having to be politically correct nowadays etc

lol i dont think so, churches or any other religion is not even allowed in Saudi arabia.....

toy_soldier · 30 Sep 2006 at 16:00

ElRazur said:
lol i dont think so, churches or any other religion is not even allowed in Saudi arabia.....

thats what I thought, so why do some muslims complain when they dont get their way in a foreign country :confused:

memphisto · 30 Sep 2006 at 16:33

dark_shadow said:
Produce 1 Ayah (Verse) like the Qur'an and I will leave Islam.

thats how fickley you would swap religons ?

anyway its not islam we want you to leave its Britain

Disclaimer: everything so far in this thread I have said is in jest

phykell · 30 Sep 2006 at 16:35

Just for one second let's imagine it's really a legitimate "protest" as CBS has implied, what was the reason? What did the "protestor(s)" hope to achieve? Can anyone see any positive value in such an act because as a non-Muslim myself and someone who disagrees with Islam on many levels yet still tolerates it, I can't see any reason it would achieve anything positive. As such, it's just a inane, unnecessary and ineffective insult which is why it should be condemned.

memphisto · 30 Sep 2006 at 16:40

maybe he/she was on the way home from the local butchers carrying loads of shopping and it just happened to flop out ?

anyway back to Dark Shadows request

Everyone among us in life you wilt thou find those who say, "We are not Muslim
": amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are all equal under allah and should be treat accordingly (5:85 AYA/82 Memph)

hows that ?

Mik3 · 30 Sep 2006 at 16:54

phykell said:
Just for one second let's imagine it's really a legitimate "protest" as CBS has implied, what was the reason? What did the "protestor(s)" hope to achieve? Can anyone see any positive value in such an act because as a non-Muslim myself and someone who disagrees with Islam on many levels yet still tolerates it, I can't see any reason it would achieve anything positive. As such, it's just a inane, unnecessary and ineffective insult which is why it should be condemned.

Indeed. Its vandalism intent to insult and should be treated as such.

If people feel the need to protest about Islam, then they should do so in a way that gets their message heard.

phykell · 30 Sep 2006 at 16:56

If you don't like Muslims being here the UK by the way, you should join an animal rights organisation and campaign to end Halal butchering methods and the import of Halal meat. If Muslims could no longer eat meat in this country (and they couldn't if such a law was brought in), I wonder how many would wish to stay if they were effectively forced into vegetarianism

dirtydog · 30 Sep 2006 at 17:23

phykell said:
If you don't like Muslims being here the UK by the way, you should join an animal rights organisation and campaign to end Halal butchering methods and the import of Halal meat. If Muslims could no longer eat meat in this country (and they couldn't if such a law was brought in), I wonder how many would wish to stay if they were effectively forced into vegetarianism

I like it

Chronos-X · 30 Sep 2006 at 17:35

toy_soldier said:
thats what I thought, so why do some muslims complain when they dont get their way in a foreign country

Because "you could have it worse somewhere else" is no justification for halting progress.

scorza · 30 Sep 2006 at 18:07

Chronos-X said:
Because "you could have it worse somewhere else" is no justification for halting progress.

What do you mean by progress? The gradual conversion of the UK into a muslim country? I see the Queen has built a mosque in Windsor Castle now.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006450503,00.html

asim · 30 Sep 2006 at 18:16

phykell said:
If you don't like Muslims being here the UK by the way, you should join an animal rights organisation and campaign to end Halal butchering methods and the import of Halal meat. If Muslims could no longer eat meat in this country (and they couldn't if such a law was brought in), I wonder how many would wish to stay if they were effectively forced into vegetarianism

Eh that wont work, I'm already pretty much a vegetarian since its impossible to get halaal meat in scotland lol.

How about I go and have all the chippies closed down in attempts to get rid of transfats. I'm sure all the brits would riot