and guess what, you'd not have to tell that to a genuinely good driver. it's quite worrying reading some of these posts from people i imagine consider themselves good drivers.
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Thoughts on Excessive Speed
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You gotta seriously run out of talent to rip a Bentayga cleanly in half. Luckily their bodies are intact.
What a dumbass.
What a dumbass.
show the real 'good' stuff from car fatalities - the stuff the police, medics etc have to deal with and you'll find those folks that are desenstised would be sleeping beside their mum while necking a load of diazepam to settle themselves
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lol
Got the familiar sounds of the thread with all the top tier drivers who are so good at driving they're super safe doing 100mph+ but who simultaneously claim they can't tell if they're doing more than 70mph or not because their super amazing car makes it too hard to notice
There is a video somewhere of someone in a nice car on the motorway doing best part of 200MPH with an OK closing speed to the cars infront, until they all suddenly brake hard closing both lanes and suddenly that isn't a good closing speed any more - only by insane amount of skill do they bring it safely to a stop using a fair amount of verge - most drivers would have died right there.
There is also a video of someone doing it in a Golf, though they don't have a good appreciation of the closing speed, and going into the back of stationary traffic.
EDIT: Found the Golf one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk3UBQ5cTVo
EDIT: Can't find the other one from a quick search but this is a good indication of what can happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBZOdEXY5ec
There is also a video of someone doing it in a Golf, though they don't have a good appreciation of the closing speed, and going into the back of stationary traffic.
EDIT: Found the Golf one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk3UBQ5cTVo
EDIT: Can't find the other one from a quick search but this is a good indication of what can happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBZOdEXY5ec
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Not sure "dumbass" is quite right, but certainly smacks of "I'm rich & successful & driving a big expensive car so clearly I'm an excellent driver who doesn't need to worry about anyone else". Whilst of course it's sad that their family have lost loved ones, it's also difficult to feel too much sympathy when you consider the risk drivers like that pose to the rest of us on the roads.
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Hitting a tree or pillar at most speeds won’t end well.
At the lower end of the scale I look at it as a max of 10% that way you should be within any limits the local force applies. For 60 and 70 then maybe the 10% + 2/3. Certainly on the motorway I try and avoid going above 80 at all costs as that does get into the grounds of making it easy to pull you over for speeding.
Yeah I generally stick to 10% at most these days on bigger roads and maybe an mph over in 30/40, unfortunately when I got done for 35 I was convinced it was a 40 as it's a big roundabout leading to the main DC across town
so really I was lucky I was only doing that speed
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I watched one of my colleagues drive into a tree in the car park at work at ~5-10MPH before
older guy got the accelerator instead of the brake... and he was off driving one of the work vans 30 minutes later... I just kind of stood there going did I just see that.
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For sure.......and planning on not having any environmental factors play in is dumb AF. Birds, pot holes, other drivers, weather...etc...
Talking about birds - the other day had a bird take an absolute dump on my windscreen mid driving
properly obscuring my vision stuff - not something you can plan for. Something very wrong with that bird the amount that landed on my windscreen :sDeleted User 298457
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You think that's bad? I sneezed earlier during an overtake.Talking about birds - the other day had a bird take an absolute dump on my windscreen mid driving
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I agree with you, except for the last part. You can put an arbitrary number on it - it's the one printed on the round sign you just passed, for 2 reasons - the most obvious being the risk of points & a fine, the less obvious being that everyone else on the road will be expecting you to be travelling at that speed and will act accordingly, e.g. lane changes, pulling out of junctions etc.
Based on my experience on the roads, an overwhelming majority almost certainly fall into the former category (regardless of their own opinions of their abilities
In an ideal world though, that sign would change according to the conditions. That of course isn't possible, which is why you have a lowest common denominator type speed limit, which can be safely broken in some cases, assuming you're happy to risk your license.
I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you in regards to your second point.
I've probably banged on about this enough on this forum, but I used to work for a driving experience company which operated on the roads of the south of France. My comments were based on my experience of that job, which went something like this:
We'd have corporate groups turn up, which always contained a wide variety of people, some interested in cars, some not. I'd give my usual speech about obeying the speed limits etc etc and they'd all nod convincingly. Many would even tell me they always respected it, or that they had never had a speeding ticket in 30 years of driving, etc etc.
I'm not exaggerating when I say that literally, over the course of around 2 years, not a single one genuinely respected the speed limit. Most would in town, but given a wide open road and the keys to an F430 or Gallardo, not a single one went less than 10MPH over the speed limit. I didn't particularly mind and would only remind them when I genuinely believed they were going too fast, but it always made me laugh how many people who I'm sure would tell you that they always respected the speed limit actually didn't.
I suppose it depends on your definition of excessive. Driving in a safe manner on the road bears little relation to the posted speed limit most of the time - in either direction (ie 20 in a 30 might be significantly more reckless than 60 in a 40).
There's some real hysterical stuff in this thread already - 100mph stone chips being fatal etc. You'd think the ~30% of Autobahns which are derestricted completely would be littered with corpses caused by all this stuff. Their roads are, in general, quite a bit worse than ours btw.
There's some real hysterical stuff in this thread already - 100mph stone chips being fatal etc. You'd think the ~30% of Autobahns which are derestricted completely would be littered with corpses caused by all this stuff. Their roads are, in general, quite a bit worse than ours btw.
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I could do that as well. In a Cessna.
True, but the speed you are doing is going to determine how many metres away bits of you are being cleaned up and who by
. I'd rather be able to wipe the blood off my broken nose after hitting the airbag, than have someone else chasing a fox down a dual carriageway to recover my arm ("true" story from the paramedic who ran our first aid course - no reason to doubt it, but still a 2nd hand account.)
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Most Cessnas aren't all that fast. Sure a Cessna Citation X will do 700mph but a Cessna 162? 135mph tops. I've flown a couple, they are seriously, tediously slow aircraft.