Thoughts on Excessive Speed

[bigmike20vt]

It is bad enough having people overtake on the right where you expect it

hmmmm I cant say I agree with you here, indeed one of my pet hates (again not accusing you) are those drivers who speed up to stop you overtaking them and then ease off when you pull in behind them.
on DCs or MWs it's annoying but on single carriage ways it's bloody dangerous

 

[tonys]

I think you missed my point, you have to be aware of cars passing on the right as that is the correct way, but you do not expect to be undertaken as a general rule. Yes you should be alert to the possibility.

 

[Haggisman]

"Undertaking" is not illegal.
I generally look at it this way, if someone can pass me on the left and move back into a space on the right without going well over the speed limit or weaving in and out of cars then I was in the wrong lane.

Situations like that are like people sitting in one lane for a merge in tern therefore causing an even bigger tale back.

The main problem with this is that many people think "a space" = "anything I can fit my car in" and ignore their own (and the person behind's) braking distance...

 

[lovelyhead]

Then why not limit all roads to 30mph?

Sounds good to me!

Less pollution, less accidents, less deaths, more efficient use of fuel, p*sses of boy racers who will more easily be caught for speeding. Would encourage people to make use of the train to travel long distance which further reduces pollution and reduces traffic on the roads.

There are a lot of good reasons for a 30mph max limit on all roads.

 

[Greebo]

The main problem with this is that many people think "a space" = "anything I can fit my car in" and ignore their own (and the person behind's) braking distance...

This. Annoys the hell out of me. I can be sitting there at a perfect distance between e and the car in front for the speed and conditions we are going and somebody moves into the gap forcing you to slow down to put a stopping distance in again.

 

[bigmike20vt]

i agree, it happens a lot. the only way to stop it is to tailgate yourself thus not leaving a big enough gap to get in (which isnt something i will do as to me this is a far more dangerous habit than driving a few mph over the limit on a motorway)

 

[SexyGreyFox]

So it's OK to potentially ruin someone else's life as long as you come off worse?

if you say so, I didn't type that though

 

[Haggisman]

if you say so, I didn't type that though

That's how it came across, you were responding to a post about cyclists riding on unlit roads with no lights because they might get killed by a driver who was unable to see them, saying but they are unlikely to kill anyone by speeding, as if that somehow makes it ok.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

That's how it came across, you're saying it's ok for cyclists to ride on unlit roads with no lights because they might get killed by a driver who was unable to see them, but they are unlikely to kill anyone by speeding, so it's fine?

If you say so but I didn't type that, make up what you want.
It's a bit weird but go for it.

 

[Haggisman]

Edit: Apologies, that was uncalled for, having a bad day

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Edit: Apologies, that was uncalled for, having a bad day

I had my reply ready as well until I followed my email

 

[bigmike20vt]

damn
is it just me who wishes I had caught the reply pre edit

 

[tom_e]

damn
is it just me who wishes I had caught the reply pre edit

It wasn't anything exciting

 

[Resident]

This is exactly what happens. You can't get banned, and then serve your ban whilst in prison - the ban get's activated on your release.

What annoys me greatly is when a Disqual driver gets caught driving and the punishment is another ban, because that worked the first time didn't it....

Both lanes had slow vehicles, they just needed to wait a couple of minutes

If they were waiting MINUTES for you to overtake and had ample time and space to pass you on the left then you were 100% in the wrong lane and guilty of lane hogging.

 

[tonys]

I wasn't " lane hogging" it was a very slow overtaking lorry which was holding up the right hand lane. I was just waiting like all the other vehicles in front of me which were passing two lorries with a couple of cars in between. So I was two cars behind the back of the second lorry.

 

[bigmike20vt]

I wasn't " lane hogging" it was a very slow overtaking lorry which was holding up the right hand lane. I was just waiting like all the other vehicles in front of me which were passing two lorries with a couple of cars in between. So I was two cars behind the back of the second lorry.

how many cars were behind you? ie had the car in the left lane already gone past 10 cars to get to you? that still would not excuse them cutting someone up if they pulled out to them overtake but could excuse their undertaking

 

[tonys]

There where a lot of cars behind me including the merc. The dual carriageway was quite busy in the left lane so all of the cars carried on in the right instead of pulling in (I know but left hand lane was doing 60mph and the right up until we got to the lorries we were doing 70mph). The merc was following me along the righthand lane for some distance (getting close on occasions)then when we got to the back of the queue of slower traffic they undertook.

 

[Removed User 345456]

I was connected on LinkedIn with a chap who owned a large leasing company. Recently his family posted saying he'd passed away with his son in a car crash. I was obviously shocked and wanted to find out what happened so had a quick look and found out he was driving a Bentayga and hit a concrete pillar on the A50......unfortunately Google also included photos from a pretty grim subReddit where some sick individual (who's been arrested for it) took pictures of the crash, which had photos of this poor man and his son dead in the car. The car was smashed to pieces so I imagine they must have been carrying a fair amount of speed, but I guess when you hit an immovable object it's only going to go one way. Anyway, these images feel like they're literally burnt into my corneas now.
Now I can't stop thinking about it and how dangerous driving can be, it's making me really evaluate whether or not I need a fast car and should I ever drive over the limit! FWIW I very rarely drive over 80mph these days especially with children in the car and after copping a 7 day ban for speeding in a 30 8 years ago I've become much more conscientious.
Anyone else ever have these thoughts? Do you really need a fast car if you're not driving on a track? My car isn't even "that" fast (C43 AMG) and I was until recently planning to change it for something a bit faster. I'm totally off the idea now.

If it's someone single, with no family etc... and they want to speed say at 3am on a dead motorway and I'm talking no one for literally miles and all there is to hurt, is themselves and they fancy a quick blast in a straight line providing they have a well maintained car/decent tyres and suspension and know how to drive it with genuine experience and the weather isn't risky/surface is decent, then that's upto them in my opinion - however going above 100 is a bit silly but a quick blast to 100 is less of a risk than say topping the car out.

The same as with someone drifting a massive empty industrial estate roundabout say, then that's upto them and they're risking themselves and the barriers they'll potentially hit.

Not condoning it but I think that's probably the only vaguely 'safe' scenerio off the top of my head purely because it doesn't endanger anyone else as it's away from everything else, but literally any place where there is housing/public places etc, then that'd just be selfish.

People who think that they can never crash are ridiculous, as is people doing anything in any hour when the public are about/near anyway an innocent can be hit.

 

[panthro]

If it's someone single, with no family etc... and they want to speed say at 3am on a dead motorway and I'm talking no one for literally miles and all there is to hurt, is themselves and they fancy a quick blast in a straight line providing they have a well maintained car/decent tyres and suspension and know how to drive it with genuine experience and the weather isn't risky/surface is decent, then that's upto them in my opinion - however going above 100 is a bit silly but a quick blast to 100 is less of a risk than say topping the car out.

The same as with someone drifting a massive empty industrial estate roundabout say, then that's upto them and they're risking themselves and the barriers they'll potentially hit.

Not condoning it but I think that's probably the only vaguely 'safe' scenerio off the top of my head purely because it doesn't endanger anyone else as it's away from everything else, but literally any place where there is housing/public places etc, then that'd just be selfish.

People who think that they can never crash are ridiculous, as is people doing anything in any hour when the public are about/near anyway an innocent can be hit.

To a certain extent I agree, but it's impossible to guarantee the external factors ie no one around at 3am etc.

Then I see videos of a*holes like DMODeejay and Drivadave, driving like absolute pillocks with no seat belts or crash helmets and think, all it takes is one thing and their life is over.

 

[Removed User 345456]

To a certain extent I agree, but it's impossible to guarantee the external factors ie no one around at 3am etc.

Then I see videos of a*holes like DMODeejay and Drivadave, driving like absolute pillocks with no seat belts or crash helmets and think, all it takes is one thing and their life is over.

It's not impossible if you can literally see for a mile+ up a motorway that's lit up that there's no cars there and the person just wants to do a quick quarter mile pull at 3am, then they're not going to hit anyone are they if they can see for a mile, or even better if it's up or down a hill on a motorway you can literally see everything in the distance can't you.

The same can be said with sliding an industrial estate at 3am... No ones kids at going to spawn from anywhere in those places nor cars, and you would see their headlights/rear lights coming in the first place, especially with lorries...

Yeah I can't stand all those 'badmanz' on YT either!