Thoughts on Supagard, if it's free.

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Hi chaps, keep seeing time and time again that supagard is not worth the £200-300+ that dealers charge and I quite agree.

However, I'm fairly friendly with a local car valeter and a little while ago he gave me 5 new supagard kits for free as he no longer uses them.

I've got my brand new Seat Toledo coming next week, would it be worth while giving it a clean and applying supagard myself, as it isn't going to cost me anything? Or is it really useless and I should just use a wax?

My plan was to apply some AG extra gloss protection over the top.

Cheers! :)
 
The general advice is if it's free go for it but don't pay anything for it, so I'd give it a go if you've got it anyway.
 
The product its self not actually that bad, but even if it's free it still has a very low value of around £5 per sponge. (look on ebay)

It makes me sick when I hear someone chose it as an option in the dealership acting all smug because they were given a discount on the car and only paid £400 for a 5 year guarantee paint protection scheme... and I never quite know how to tell the dealer to get stuffed when I'm offered it too. It's an an almost horrible way of making or recovering a lot of profit in a sale.

Most of the problems with this con is that it's [mostly] applied badly by idiots in the dealership to unclean cars. if you do a decent job of it it's worth a punt.... but I still would not even bother to be honest - just get yourself a nice wax, or a good syntehtic sealant - it will be better

something like Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer (please don't let the name put you off!!) will give you unrel water behavour, unreal durability and easy application.
 
Thanks guys. I might put it on as it's what I have already at the moment and see if I'm happy with it.

How long does the Sonax stuff last do you think? I want to keep my car nice but I'm not the type to be out washing it every week.

Although that might all change when I have one worth washing :p.
 
Thanks guys. I might put it on as it's what I have already at the moment and see if I'm happy with it.

How long does the Sonax stuff last do you think? I want to keep my car nice but I'm not the type to be out washing it every week.

Although that might all change when I have one worth washing :p.

it lasts ages. seems to outlast any waxes. I bought 5 litres of it and give it to relatives and family they all use it as a means to keep cars repelling water and looking clean with little effort. once you have one coat of it on put one more on after the next wash and that will see you good for a while. put it everywhere, even glass (except windscreen) it will make everything bead.

to top it up if you want to you can spray it onto a wet car (after washing it) and dry it off as if you were drying normaly and it will give it a nice top up without the buffing.

the only weird thing about it is it won't make your car feel slick to the touch - it's quite grabby if you run your hand over it, but when it's wet it's very slick - so easy to wash and dry.
 
when i sold cars, i used to get the hump when the valeters bay was filled with unused superguard cans and wax etc.

They dont have a clue.

Its worse now that i deal with used assets and cars is often one of them. A lot of directors etc are oblivious to it and are more than happy to spend £300 on "special paint treatment" such a joke.
 
when i sold cars, i used to get the hump when the valeters bay was filled with unused superguard cans and wax etc.

They don't have a clue.

Its worse now that i deal with used assets and cars is often one of them. A lot of directors etc are oblivious to it and are more than happy to spend £300 on "special paint treatment" such a joke.

yea that's the other thing - it's sometimes just not even put on! utter scam

I had a rather pushy salesman do a quote for me on a VW Up last year and we were going through the options and finer details. the quote came back and I queried a sum of £500 on the quote and he told me it was paint protection and that all new cars get it - I said absolutely not, no thanks so then he went on and he tried to sell me their paint protection on the basis that it wasn't like the other ones that were scams and that when the car is traded in after the PCP is up it will be logged that it has had paint protection and WILL increase the value of the car come renewal time as it's guaranteed for 5+ years, tried to reduce it when I declined again.
I could not help myself and went on a little rant about it told him I was very much into paint, finishes, car paint and so on and that I knew exactly the value of the product for sale and how it's applied - chose the wrong guy to try and sell that to! He was really trying to sell it though - the thought of £495 profit for nothing must be quite appealing!

I'm really surprised there hasn't been some kind of a stop being put to it - they're not doing anything wrong as such but it's heavily misleading. take a car to a proper detailer for a new-car-detail and correction and he will charge less than their rubbing it with a sponge and it will be massively better.


We just bought a Hyundai i10 recently through Drive the deal and this was part of the email from the guy we're dealing with at the dealership:
G3 Glass coat preparation - Prior to you receiving your new vehicle it is fully valeted but we also recommend 'G3' which is a exterior paint and upholstery protection kit guaranteed to give you for 5 years protection. Full details can be found on http://www.g-3glasscoat.com/ . This product comes complete with a complete car care maintenance pack and normally retails at £349.00 but we presently able to protect your vehicle for just £299.00 (again slightly more expensive on large vehicles)

not that much of a hard-sell but I'm sure they will try it again as we move closer to delivery date! Instead I'm taking it to Matt at obsidian detailing for a full new-car correction and protection detail and have requested the dealership don't touch it at all! He will take it to bits and spend a full few days on it. (I'd usually do it myself but don't have easy access into my garage anymore - I moved house and my new garage has no lighting and is full of boxes)

Glasscoat is a little more expensive to buy than supagard / diamondbrite as a product but it's very much like a lot of other synthetic 'nano' sealants on the market [like hardbody, bodywrap, exo, 9h, etc) and probably not as good. They're notoriously difficult and time consuming to apply properly and have a very strict application process which if you don't follow it won't work.
 
It's an easy way to put £500 on an already large purchase.

What's £500 when you are already spending £20,000?

Especially on tick.

Lots of little high mark up add ons, keeping it all about the monthly payment, divert attention from the final amount payable etc.
 
Spoke to the dealer just to confirm what they're doing with the car when they prep it, and wanted to make sure I'm not already being charged for supagard etc in the price.

They're just going to give it a gentle wash and clean inside and out and a light polish, but they won't apply a wax etc.

I've got some of that Sonax Detailer, also some Gteqnic Smart Fabric to protect the interior.

My plan is when I get the car home to carefully wash with Autoglym Shampoo and dry, then clay the paintwork to remove any contaminants/overspray as for all I know the car could have been left standing for ages in the docks.

Then I'll give it a light polish with SRP, and apply the supagard I have and go over the top with the Sonax Stuff.

I don't really want to be spending out on wax that I'll have to apply regularly, as to be 100% honest I'm looking for a compromise between protection/appearance and convenience, as I'll often only wash my car every few weeks.

I'll probably get a bit more anal with this one though seen as it's new and shiny, but I seldom get the time.

The plan is to wash in the future using the gentle AG shampoo then spray on the detailer whilst I dry the car off as suggested.

Sound good?
 
Just ask them not to wash it in the first place if your happy to do a new car detail on it.

The swirls will be there once they have had their sponges to it. Imagine how many cars they wash and their actual care in it.

Went past the Honda dealer in Cov earlier with the forecourt cars all getting a wash with a nice hose attachment brush.... wonderful.
 
Quite tempted to just drive it away tonight when they get it in and even take the plastic off myself!

Only thing I'm thinking is that when they're cleaning and prepping the inside/outside any damage they find etc they will have to fix, wheras if I drive it away before it's cleaned off etc they could claim any hidden chips or marks were my doing.

I'm going to see it later when it first arrives, so I might chat with the dealer then.
 
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