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Lo all,

For those of you who don't know, in April '09 my father purchased a 55 plate BMW E60 530d Msport with 50k miles for £14.5k from an independent dealer in Cornwall.

Due to my mother's job, both of my parents moved to Boston Massachusetts in January of this year and I managed to convince them to let me 'look after' the car so I've been using it for 8 months now.

After he bought it, I noticed that the rear bumper had been resprayed and asked Dad about it. He said that the dealer had told him it had been in a shunt but Dad was happy enough with the repair work and had bought it anyway. I should also point out that the car did not include a full service history and I did ask him if he had HPI checked it etc, but he assured me everything was kosher.

Over the last few weeks I've become increasingly concerned about the history of the car which has resulted in me HPI checking it myself and I've now found out it was previously a CAT D write off.

It was first registered in September 2005 and it was written off in April 2006 so one can assume that the damage was pretty substantial to warrant a CAT D after only 6/7 months.

I've contacted my father and he doesn't seem too concerned about it. He said he's not fussed about the reselling issues because he plans to run it into the ground and he's not angry at the dealer because they told him it had been in a shunt.

However, I feel pretty angry on his behalf and I wonder if there's anything that can be done about it. I appreciate it's probably too late because it was purchased over a year ago but does the dealer not have some obligation to declare if a car they are selling was previously written off?

I know how this will go down in Motors and believe me, I share your face-palms but I also feel really sorry for my Dad.

I guess this explains why it was so *relatively* cheap and why the rear wheels aren't staggered on an Msport model (thanks for alerting me to this Fox).

I realise that for most people in Motors this will be teaching you to suck eggs but always get an HPI check on any car you're considering buying even if it's from a dealer.

Commence the expected *and deserved* thrashing.
 
I guess this explains why it was so *relatively* cheap and why the rear wheels aren't staggered on an Msport model (thanks for alerting me to this Fox).

Ahhh I meant to tell you - I couldn't find the previous thread where this was mentioned. I checked my 2 year old 530i M Sport and the wheels aren't staggered on that either (style 135s as well). I had always assumed they were, I've only had the car a couple of months though so have never had the need to look.

So they aren't supposed to be staggered, sorry for adding to the false info in the other thread. ;)
 
Why would he need to get an HPI check when the dealer has told him straight that it's had an accident repair.
I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but you say it as if it would have revealed some kind of secret when it wouldn't.
 
Pete and Mark, you are right, it's not my money so I should worry too much. I just think it's a shame.

No worries Wicksta, it's good to know that there's one less thing that's wrong with it. :p Thanks for letting me know. :)

Clarkey, I think it's the extent of the damage which wasn't made clear to him. From the way he explained it, the dealer made it out as if it was just a little knock. Hence why a bumper respray wasn't really cause for alarm.

However, damage equivalent to >60% of the value of a 6 month old 5 Series is going to be significantly more than this.

I might consider buying a car that's had a ding in a car park and repaired but not something which has been totalled and put back on the road.

That's where an HPI check would identify the severity of the damage.
 
At that price, it must have been clear that there was something up with it or it had a little more history - especially given that it is a price from a dealer.

It would have had to have been repaired to road-worthiness before being allowed back into circulation, and must have been done so to a reasonably high standard as all you've noticed is a resprayed bumper. Finally, as it is being 'run into the ground', why not just carry on and forget about it, whilst also noting if you need to inform your insurance company.
 
Why would he need to get an HPI check when the dealer has told him straight that it's had an accident repair.
I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but you say it as if it would have revealed some kind of secret when it wouldn't.

Accident repair doesnt equal write off tho does it, big difference, you from a dealer for peace of mind.
 
It being a diseasel and new when it was written off, it may well have been a company car, fleet managers are good at negotiating a write off, they don't want the car back repaired. So it may not have been as bad a shunt as you think.

OP said:
always get an HPI check on any car you're considering buying

This is still completely true though, had your father done this he would have been able to negotiate a price that better reflects the car's history, it will be harder to sell on when you're done with it.
 
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