Time to upgrade from the Pentium G4560

[champ222]

Hi All

A few years back i built a new PC, Z270 platform with the Pentium G4560, which was all the rage at the time. Its done me proud over the years.

ive started to play more recently, and started playing COD Warzone with some mates. Its all good fun.

I was contemplating getting a fast monitor, 144Hz for example, so i switched off V-sync, and switched on the fps counter. I was barely getting above 60FPS. I ran MSI Afterburner to log GPU and CPU usage. The GPU never maxes out, not even close, but the CPU is running at 100%. Turning down the settings in the game, just lowers the GPU uasge even further. the CPU still runs flat out.

So its not surprising that the Pentium G4560 is the bottleneck. It was always meant to be a stop gap until used i5s/i7s came down in price.

So, upgrades. The MOBO, ASROCK Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming-ITX/ac, will take: (Ive removed the low power stuff from the list)

1151 Core i7 i7-7700K(B0) Kaby Lake 4.2GHz 8MB 91W All
1151 Core i7 i7-7700(B0) Kaby Lake 3.6GHz 8MB 65W All
1151 Core i7 i7-6700K(R0) Skylake S 4.0GHz 8MB 91W All
1151 Core i7 i7-6700(R0) Skylake S 3.4GHz 8MB 65W All
1151 Core i5 i5-7600K(B0) Kaby Lake 3.8GHz 6MB 91W All
1151 Core i5 i5-7600(B0) Kaby Lake 3.5GHz 6MB 65W All
1151 Core i5 i5-7500(B0) Kaby Lake 3.4GHz 6MB 65W All
1151 Core i5 i5-7400(B0) Kaby Lake 3.0GHz 6MB 65W All
1151 Core i5 i5-6600K(R0) Skylake S 3.5GHz 6MB 91W All
1151 Core i5 i5-6600(R0) Skylake S 3.3GHz 6MB 65W All
1151 Core i5 i5-6500(R0) Skylake S 3.2GHz 6MB 65W All
1151 Core i5 i5-6402P (R0) Skylake S 2.8GHz 6MB 65W All
1151 Core i5 i5-6400(R0) Skylake S 2.7GHz 6MB 65W All

The obvious choices would be 6600K, 7600K, 6700K or 7700K, but should i consider the others? I get that you can overclock the K versions, and i might do, a little, but i expect the 6700K are selling for quite a bit more than say the 6700?

Rest of the Spec:

GTX1070GPU
750W Seasonic PSU
Thermalright AMD/Intel Macho Rev.B Multi CPU Quiet Air Cooler
16GB Corsair Vengence 3200

I Could side step to Ryzen 5, but that is more faff, changing the MOBO and all.

Cheers

 

[champ222]

Thanks mate, i'll look for a 6600K / 6700K. I know its still a bit old as you say, it'll do me though.

Over clocking aside, is it worth going for the K over the non-k chips?

Cheers

 

[champ222]

Thanks for that, ill check that out.

 

[champ222]

Cor, its slippery round here...

I completely hear what your saying, and i agree, but, id need a new cooler too, which would then mean id probably change my case for something like the silverstone milo (but less nasty looking) and id need a new psu too... by which point ive got a new pc. Slippery slope indeed.

I think ill stick with a 6600k or 7600k as it shouldnt cost much and the g4560 will be worth something.

I will though try and work out how much id get for the existing system, it might be worth it.

 

[champ222]

This all makes perfect sense. Let me crunch some numbers on the predicted value of the bits i have, so i can see the expected spend.

This is all due to some mates suddenly showing an interest in online gaming. For me playing single player games, id probably be alright with what i have now, and if this turns out to be a short fad, then ill be gutted ive invested a bunch on it.

So what sort of frame rate should i be aiming for, to see a significant difference from 60hz? This might lead to a gaming monitor purchase you see. If say 100hz is a significant increase. Can i achieve that with the 1070 gpu i have, and any reasonable cpu and mobo upgrade? Or am i looking serious outlay?

I know it would vary with game, but assume warzone and a 1080p monitor

Thanks guys, i appreciate the help

 

[champ222]

Thanks. There is some value in the bits i have, so an upgrade might be worthwhile.

Ill start the research and see what i can come up with. All your advice has given me somewhere to start.

Last time i looked into this. Ryzen was all the rage, is that still the case? Or has intel taken the egde again?

Cheers

 

[champ222]

Thanks, i'm looking about at prices and availability now. the 3600 is up at £190. the 10400F looks like good value, as does the 10100F (F just means no onchip graphics yeah?) the 10600kF can be had for £215 but this i suspect commands a more expensive board etc?

One advantage of the Ryzen 3600, is that my existing cooler (Thermalright AMD/Intel Macho Rev.B) should fit as its compatible with AM4:

Intel: Socket LGA 775/1150/1151/1155/1156/1366/2011/2011-3/2066
AMD: Socket AM2/AM2 /AM3/AM3 /AM4/FM1/FM2/FM2

unless i'm missing something?

 

[champ222]

Yeah i guess it makes sense to spend more on a board for a 10600KF

would this be up to the job?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...1200-ddr4-mini-itx-motherboard-mb-58g-gi.html

I'd probably just go H410/B460 with the 10100F or 10400F.

Also looking at Ryzen 3600 based system. Since this is overclockable, i guess its also worth spending a bit more on the motherboard

Whether i actually have the time to fiddle about with overclocking though is another thing

 

[champ222]

Yeah, i get that you do pay more for ITX.

so originally i had a full size PC With a phanteks evolv case. it was HUGE, and there was nothing in it really. about a year later i swapped the motherboard out for an ITX, sold the case and got an ITX case that would fit the full size GPU, full size PSU and the cooler. It fits in the TV rack (just) and is much easier to move about. If i did it again, i'd go even smaller, but i dont want to change graphics card at the moment, so i'm trying to make it work with what i have. By the time ive bought another case etc, i may aswell had just bought the ITX board.

That does make a lot of sense. Ive checked and the cooler should with with the new socket, so thats handy.

10100F system does make a lot more sense than buying a 6700K/7700K as they are selling for a suprisingly high amount. Even with a 10400F system i'd probably be better off once ive sold the old bits on.

 

[champ222]

Thats cool. Thanks.

Could you recomend an itx board for a 3600 too? Im weighing up my amd options. Overclocking is not necessary B450? B550?

Much appreciated