To ips or not?

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I basically I'm a gamer through winter and a photographer through summer! I looking for a new monitor for both jobs, my colleague reckons I need a ips but a little more expensive and 5ms response time is my Only Concern. What would you all suggest probably about £100-200 but will really get budget when I know what's best
 
the only better option for gaming would be a TN Film based panel, preferrably one with 120Hz+ refresh rate support but that would probably be pushing the budget. Those would be the most responsive panels for gaming form a pixel response time point of view. A decent IPS would probably be second to TN Film for gaming (faster than VA on the most part). IPS are still fine for a lot of gaming, they just aren't quite as fast as TN Film models. they also cant natively support higher refresh rates for improved frame rates, smoother motion. They don't have any of the advanced motion blur reduction benefits either, like you can get when using a LightBoost enabled TN Film model as well.

With a TN Film panel you would have to live with restrictive viewing angles and obvious contrast/gamma shifts across the screen which could prove problematic to your photo work. IPS is certainly a much better option for your photo and colour work, probably why your friend has suggested one.

As a decent option you could look at the Dell P2414H perhaps. About as responsive as you can get from an IPS panel, no overshoot issues, very low input lag as well. Plus all the benefits of an IPS panel, some decent ergonomics and connectivity options too :)
 
I've just moved from a BenQ 120hz monitor to a LG IPS display (The BenQ failed a month out of warranty).

I thought that I'd have problems going from 120hz back to 60hz for gaming, but I've not. If anything, the better colour reproduction and black levels have improved my gaming. Having said that, the screen refresh difference is there but I can live with it.
 
Some great info for me their,its basically what i had figured out i needed but nice to check these things.
Baddass you have posted a 8ms monitor do the ms matter that much?i was aiming for a 5ms monitor as they seem the most common/lowest i come across!
Ps was looking at this monitor originally even though its out of my own price range.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-096-IY&groupid=17&catid=510
 
Don't be mislead by the specs. Real life performance can really vary. Look at the response time measurements in that review including the comparisons against other IPS models (taking into account the overshoot of each too). In practice IPS panels dont really reach as low as 5ms without some very aggressive overdrive applied which then just leaves you with nasty and noticeable overshoot
 
Seems a bit like the world of cameras,loads of talking crap that sounds good but sometimes its just rubbish! Cheers for all the advice!
 
I game fine on an IPS screen as do several members of the gaming community I belong to. I've got a Dell U2713HM and photos look amazing on it. I don't think I could go back to a TN panel.
 
I've got a Dell U2412m on the way, arriving tomorrow. Looked at the P2414H, but wanted the 192*1200 resolution! I'll have a fiddle (not got much time, but a blast of half life and euro truck simulator 2 will do, as thats all I have installed currently!) and post back. Moving from a very old and low level monitor though!
 
abbotsmike said:
I've got a Dell U2412m on the way, arriving tomorrow. Looked at the P2414H, but wanted the 192*1200 resolution! I'll have a fiddle (not got much time, but a blast of half life and euro truck simulator 2 will do, as thats all I have installed currently!) and post back. Moving from a very old and low level monitor though!
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I look forward to hearing the review! Im kind of fancying a few extra pixels aswell.
 
Personally unless you REALLY want those extra few pixels I don't think the U2412M is as good as the P2414H

The U2412M has some rather noticeable overshoot ghosting, higher lag, old style heavy AG coating, uses PWM for backlight dimming....the P2414H has no overshoot problems, very low lag, lighter AG and no PWM. Also could be argued the 16:9 format is better/easier for gamig and multimedia too
 
Baddass said:
Personally unless you REALLY want those extra few pixels I don't think the U2412M is as good as the P2414H

The U2412M has some rather noticeable overshoot ghosting, higher lag, old style heavy AG coating, uses PWM for backlight dimming....the P2414H has no overshoot problems, very low lag, lighter AG and no PWM. Also could be argued the 16:9 format is better/easier for gamig and multimedia too
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Based on the reviews I looked at the real world difference between 2412 and 2414 is pretty marginal, and the extra screen space is important, I spend much more of my time at the moment doing CAD PCB design and circuit simulations than gaming!
 
abbotsmike said:
Based on the reviews I looked at the real world difference between 2412 and 2414 is pretty marginal, and the extra screen space is important, I spend much more of my time at the moment doing CAD PCB design and circuit simulations than gaming!
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The difference in screen surface alone has a significant impact on the image quality. He actually wrote one of the reviews you have probably read on the monitor and I have written another. When I wrote my review of the P2414H for pcmonitors.info I actually had a U2412M side by side with the monitor for a lot of the testing. The default colour setup, overall richness of colours and image quality is simply superior on the P2414H. The responsiveness is also much better balanced - and I've had a user who likes to game upgrade from a U2412M to P2414H and completely agree with that assessment. I am glad you're happy with the U2412M, but for the OP who starts by saying 'basically I'm a gamer' it isn't really the best choice.
 
Baddass said:
Personally unless you REALLY want those extra few pixels I don't think the U2412M is as good as the P2414H

The U2412M has some rather noticeable overshoot ghosting, higher lag, old style heavy AG coating, uses PWM for backlight dimming....the P2414H has no overshoot problems, very low lag, lighter AG and no PWM. Also could be argued the 16:9 format is better/easier for gamig and multimedia too
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I have seen two different versions of the U2414H advertised, the one in the review and it appears a more recent slim bezel version. Do you expect them both to behave the same?
 
Garmin said:
I have seen two different versions of the U2414H advertised, the one in the review and it appears a more recent slim bezel version. Do you expect them both to behave the same?
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One is the P2414H the other is the U2414H. Performance should be similar but perhaps a bit of a tighter calibration on the U, different ports and some extra OSD features. TFT Central are currently reviewing the Ultrasharp version and I should be soon as well.
 
ive never gamed on a 120mhz TN panel but i would enver go back to Tn panels due to poor colour/contrast and viewing angles.

I have used IPS panels for possibly over 10 years now for gaming too!

Doesnt LCD tv's use IPS panels?
 
PCM2 said:
The difference in screen surface alone has a significant impact on the image quality. He actually wrote one of the reviews you have probably read on the monitor and I have written another. When I wrote my review of the P2414H for pcmonitors.info I actually had a U2412M side by side with the monitor for a lot of the testing. The default colour setup, overall richness of colours and image quality is simply superior on the P2414H. The responsiveness is also much better balanced - and I've had a user who likes to game upgrade from a U2412M to P2414H and completely agree with that assessment. I am glad you're happy with the U2412M, but for the OP who starts by saying 'basically I'm a gamer' it isn't really the best choice.
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Totally agree with that. The P2414H is better IMO than the U2412M for the reasons I listed and what you've said there
 
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