Toilet Upgrade

tigerstyle

tigerstyle

tigerstyle

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My wife doesn't like the flush on our toilet, it's pretty hard work to get it to flush good for you, and it takes a long time to refill also. The units gotta be nearly 10-20 years old so fair enough it needs sprucing up!

Is THIS! a complete drop in replacement that'll bring my bog into 2013?

I've identified the toilet as a bottom fill, I'm sure it's just 1/2" as it's not 'in' Europe or European in anyway. Aside from what's in the kit will I need any extra silicone or washers to seal it all up, it looks like there is some sealant in the bottom of the fill port now. I've seen there is a valve on the flexi hose just before it goes into the cistern so I can isolate the supply there easily too.

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Should be perfect, straight forward swap.
The bottom inlet valve is height adjustable, so no problems.

EDIT: No reason why you can't sealant if you feel happier using it.

I never have myself.
 
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Shouldn't need silicone. as the gaskets provide the seal.

And when you attach flexible hose to inlet don't overtighten it.
 
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Ah I see, the inlet goes right through the bottom on the cistern, so it should come with a decent enough rubber gasket, odd that the one on there now looks to have sealant on it too. Will clean all that off and make it flat ready for gasket :)
 
I wish you'd of posted hours ago!
I got it all in pieces and was like whaaaaaaaat is that? Had to go get the monster stilsons and remove the nut holding the doughnut carefully to reuse it. No harm done though, so far it's working fine.

Except the handle won't fit through the hole? Had to file the plastic down a bit to get it in. Rubbish design, it's an ideal standard toilet, so should be fairly standard.

And doesn't fill any quicker, must just have low pressure on that line, but the taps seem ok in that room.
 
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So dudes! My upstairs toilet is now the bomb! Flushing fantastically.

New problem, downstairs toilet. It has hard copper going right into the toilet, but the angle of the copper pipe and how the cistern now sits on its new doughnut washer means the two just wont meet. Photo is old doughnut, doesn't seal well enough, and copper inlet doesn't line up square anyway.

Am I able to just cut off the copper pipe where it's straight, then just get a push fit>flexi connector on it like i have upstairs? Problem is Screwfix have loads of different plumbing fittings, can't track down what I need exactly, something JohnGuest based possibly :)


http://www.screwfix.com/p/hydraquip-chrome-push-fit-hose-15-x-300-x-13mm-x/62227

That? Would ideally be something with an isolating valve in there to but it's no big deal, found all the stopcocks in the house now!

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Actually I think this one might be better, http://www.screwfix.com/p/hydraquip-chrome-push-fit-elbow-hose-15-x-500-x-13mm-x/57487
I can then have the bend coming out towards the camera and cut off the existing fitting and have enough slack to do a 90 bend back into the cistern?
 
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It doesn't have to be push fit, just that the only way I can see to do it is to cut of the fitting on the bottom copper pipe and start from 'fresh'
It's got some small reducer onto the brass nut thing now, and I need some slack to line it up with the inlet.

The one you linked too, does it mean compression onto just a plain open ended copper pipe? Would it come with an olive type thing to allow that?

Also the end of the plastic inlet pipe has got a bit mangled from the copper pipe not lining up, am I ok to just cut off the last 5MM of it and start fresh there?
 
Great, I had a quick google, so there is an olive that sits inbetween the longer bit of the body where that isolating valve is and the smaller nut underneath?
Hold the isolating valve straight and spin the nut underneath tight?

Sorry for all the questions :) But want to nail this tomorrow, otherwise it's water all over the floor!
 
And don't over tighten the compression fitting.
Put nut on pipe, then slide on olive, then fitting making sure it's fully seated,slide up nut & tighten.

I've seen many compression fittings barely seated, because theyare lazy & slide on whole fitting in one go.

And allow a bit of slack in the flexible pipe.
 
awesome, it doesn't look it in the photo but the copper pipe is close to the wall at the bottom, the dog legs out towards the camera under the cistern inlet.
So need to make sure I can do a kinda loop-the-loop with the flexi into the cistern without kinking it.

thanks for the help, internet beers your way!

Oh, fitting the same kit as in my first post. http://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-button-cable-dual-flush-bottom-inlet/58353

So the same inely you said!
Problem is the handle doesn't fit my cistern without filling, and the inlet is actually quite close to the corner on my cistern, so the even at the best angle of rotation, the large float slightly scrapes the cistern unit, but doesn't affect operation
 
I've worked it out!
I don't need the overflow pipe on the left side of the cistern now as the new thing will drain internally into the pan. So I can remove and block off the overflow pipe that just sticks out of the wall, and then swap the inlet over to the left side, leaving lots of room to run the flexi hose behind the cistern with no need for silly tight loops of hose.

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http://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-blanking-off-plug-white/65267
http://www.screwfix.com/p/flexible-hose-with-valve/34083
 
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