Tokyo/Kyoto trip

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Son and friend (19yr olds) have just informed me they want to do a week in Japan..............er ok! The are looking at 1 week, a couple of days in Tokyo and the remainder in Kyoto; next month. They have never booked a holiday before and never traveled without their parents. Neither parents have been to Japan either.

Anybody want to offer some good hints and tips from flights/airports, to transport, hotels, things to do/see, currency, apps? Or even just a link to a site that may cover such a thing?

Nothing like last minute plans :(
 
7 days for Tokyo and Kyoto is…erm, doable if you’ve been before, know what you are doing, where to go and not waste time faffing around.

I’ve once went to Kyoto and Osaka for 4 days total before going to Korea for a week. I’ve also went to Tokyo for 9 days but as a first trip, with prices the ways things are now. You should really go for longer for better value for money.

If you are immune to jet lag then you can land in the morning, and have a full day, if you can get a late flight back then you can have another day. But you will still lose 1 day going there due to time difference.

We've explained this - but it seems they are set on it!

So they could fly into Tokyo and back from kyoto?

Any recommendations on what to do in tokyo/kyoto? Hotels? How does the bullet train work for booking?

I think there will be a lot of faffing around and wasting time - so just trying to do a bit of research on their behalf.
 
If you are set on going, then I would rather concentrate the 1st trip to Tokyo, or Osaka and Kyoto. Rather than Tokyo + Kyoto. The reason being that to do your original plan, you are really best fly into one and out of the other. That can push costs up even further, not to mention a 1 way trip on the Shinkansen is like £100 per person.

If you are landing in Tokyo, pick Haneda, NOT Narita. Narita is about 90min train via the NEX Narita Express and cost like £30. So if the flight to Haneda is like £50 more...it's worth it. Haneda is in the city, it is connected by a monorail, close enough for a £20 taxi to the hotel.

If you are flying into Kansai Airport then it's about an hour to Kyoto from there.

As for getting train tickets, you can get it from the machines, which has English, or go to one of the counters, and they have English speaker there. Prepare to give yourself like 20mins though to get tickets to find the platform if you buy it on the day, and you won't be able to book a seat on the day. So you will need to go to the unreserved carriages. If you book ahead you can reserve a seat. Try to pack light, as LARGE suitcases are only allowed if you book a space, but overhead storage can fit a medium size suitcase. Don't be one of those people who put a suitcase in front of the seats...the locals will hate you.

Hotels right now is crazy, so just pick somewhere close to the main station in Kyoto. Kyoto transport is erm....crowded...well, the buses are, I hate Kyoto buses, I rather walk 2 miles than take the bus in the day time at least. So many tourists .... i am part of the problem so i walk. The trains and subway are not bad but they don't go everywhere in the city so some places, especially on the East side, where Kiyomizu Dera is are bus access only. 30mins on foot from the station...I just walk it. If they have iPhones then get the Suica app in the wallet, just top it up and tap tap tap on buses, trains all over the country. If not, then you need to get the travel Suica card...they have currently suspended selling the normal Suica card due to Chip shortages.

As for what to do....just temples and temples really. The place is full of history and old Japan, so if you like then it's amazing but also...a lot of tourists kinda ruins that a bit. There are other smaller less famous places that has the same feel, without the crowds.

In Tokyo, stay on any of the station on the Yamanote line, I suggest either west side (Shibuya, Shinjuku up to Ikebukuro) or East side, from Shimbashi up to Uneo, Akihabara. Avoid staying in the North or South area, not much main attractions around those. If you are on the Yamanote Line then everything wil be quicke to get to.

I went to Singapore for a week during the pandemic, but my flight was also like £500...so much better value. I guess you can go to Japan for a week but I feel like, unlike Singapore, you barely scratch the surface or even get used to the customs in that time. Not to mention right now it is like a sauna, i hope they like sweating...but at least they will get a chance to try Pocari Sweat.

Thankyou for taking the time to write this - very much appreciated.
 
I will be going to Japan later in the year for 10 days and intend to visit Tokyo + Kyoto too.

For convenience I booked a hotel in Shinagawa, which is a ~20 minute train ride from Haneda airport and also has the shinkansen that goes to Kyoto.

Awesome - ty!

Are you able to share the name of the hotel either here or in a DM? They really are starting from scratch and i'd feel better knowing that they are in a researched hotel/area!
 
So, as others have said, a week is not enough. It's a long flight and a 3 hour Shinkansen ride between the cities. It'll be more expensive to fly back from a different city, and may even limit your choice of carriers as they need to fly to both. There is also a huge amount outside of those cities to see, such as Nara, Osaka, Hiroshima, Himeji, and countless other places. I spent 3 weeks there and despite some serious rushing around missed a ton and will have to go back.
Advising on exactly what to see can be tricky - what do they like? Are they going to see the historic places like Himeji, Kinkakuji etc? Modern buildings like Tokyo skytree?

You can stay pretty much anywhere. It's all safe, and the metro systems are brilliant (but very crowded) so aim to be nearby. A JR rail pass is good if you can make use of it but if they're only staying in 2 cities it may be cheaper to pay the one off fair. It covers the Shinkansen, but not private railways of which there are many but there are almost always JR alternatives. You can get metro passes as well so these may be more useful if they stay a few days in a particular city. Best bet for hotels is just to check on booking.com for prices and ratings, even if you go to the hotel direct. The vast majority take a great pride in providing good service so it's hard to go wrong. Avoid capsules.

Food wise sushi train is always cheap. Plenty of bento or rice/noodle places as well. Fried eel is lovely. Learn the exchange rate and just search for local ones when you're hungry as once again they are plentiful and take pride in what they serve. 7/11 is everywhere but they aren't the dives they are in other countries. There is a lot of free wi-fi around, but you can also buy a local sim with some data to help. Some places were cash only when I went but that was pre-covid, so best bet is probably to get a foreign fee free credit card and use that to pay where possible whilst taking a couple hundred in cash just in case. Once you get a feel for prices and whether you want to go back you can decide to spend the cash or keep it for next time but it's just easier to minimise what you carry. There is no tipping. Don't even offer, it's rude.

Quite a lot of people speak English, especially younger ones, but make an effort at least and learn to say please, thank you, excuse me/sorry etc and they will really appreciate it.

Really useful - ty.

I've advised them to post on here themselves to discuss what they want to achieve and see, their interests etc while out there.

I've said to take some local currency, but they have Revolut and Monzo apps too.

Tipping - v useful to know and to try to make an effort with the langauage.
 
Just seen the drinking age is 20. Both are 19 - is it very strict? They aren't big drinkers, so it won't be an issue, but of they wanted a drink, are you ID'd etc?

Food costs? They are students on budgets, so interested in what they could expect to be spending daily on food please.
 
Oh, I forgot to say, it is the law that you need to carry ID on you, so carry your passport at all times. If you buy things in a store that is tax free, you need to show it. And if the police happens to stop you, you also need to show it. They never stop me because I kinda blend in lol

That's extremely useful - thank you. They/we were not aware of this.

And thanks for the food pics and tips!
 
Mmmmmmm, so the lads are loving their trip, but they mentioned that on public transport they are been actively avoided by locals; staring, not sitting near them etc.

Are they doing something wrong? Or is there any animosity between the Japanese and 2 young white lads?
 
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