Tolerance vs Consideration.

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When I was a kid I was always taught that whilst tolerance was important, consideration for others always trumped this.
It's a rule that I've generally lived my life by however I seem to be more and more of a rarity in this respect.

I'll give a prime example, one that others in here have probably dealt with.
Walking by a cafe today I noticed a family with a few kids. The kids were running around the place, bumping against tables and chairs, getting in the way of servers and clearly annoying some of the other patrons. I know the cafe well, it's a lovely quiet place overlooking the sea. Nice atmosphere, good food, stunning views.

Now, when I was a kid my parents would have reigned me in pretty sharpish. A quiet word and a little explanation would have had me understanding it's not a playground and I was disrupting others. These parents did sweet F A. For the time that I was passing one never looked up from her phone and the other was troughing away on a toastie.

I think it's also incredibly evident in driving standards. Right of way just doesn't seem to exist. People will cut you up completely unnecessarily. Another example of mine from yesterday, was out for a great drive on country roads and a woman pulled out in front of me from a side road. She was in a t-roc, not exactly made for twisting, undulating roads and so didn't go above 35. There was nothing behind me. There are plenty of laybys and she could have pulled in to any of them. I do it all the time if I'm in the pickup and there's something quicker that is going to be held up behind me (Which tbh is pretty much anything!). It literally takes seconds. In fact, the gent in the Mondeo that was in front of me before that did just that. Gave me a wave and nod and I gave him a thumbs up. He then pulled out behind me and it cost him no time at all and I was able to push in and have fun.

Consideration. Ain't it great? Why then do so few people seem to possess it anymore? I feel this is one of the reasons, as stated in the declining attitude to law and order thread, that we're seeing the problems in society that we have. Instead of trying to have a better society, tolerance is requiring us to put up with the worst behaviours and attitudes that people exhibit.

Or am I just weird?
 
I used to run a department in a supermarket and there was one instance where a mother was arguing with some pretty much innocent person after their child ran into the trolley and started crying, naturally it was the innocent persons fault, checking the CCTV it showed how the stationary trolley had jumped out and attacked the kid. The mother then blamed the supermarket because the kid ran into a trolley, storming off claiming she would never shop there again!

It's funny you mentioned that, I think I've posted on here previously about a similar one I had. Stood still looking for something on a shelf and a kid ran smack bang in to my leg. Head in contact with my hip. Naturally the kid falls on the floor screaming and then the mother came and started having a go at me for knocking the kid over. Luckily a worker had been stood nearby and had seen it happen and proceeded to put the woman back in her box on my behalf!
 
I prefer to keep my kids in line, cause if I don't they'll turn to crime in later life. It's a slippery slope!

You probably know the place, it's the one opposite collywell bay. Was going to go in for a bite and just noped out.
 
I know people say 'it was always like this' but I don't remember it being as bad as it is now. A lot of people absolutely do not care about anyone else.

That's the same for me. I don't remember it being as bad as it is now, which is the reason for me making this thread really. Something seems to have happened over the last few decades to turn so many people in to selfish idiots, whether on a personal or familiaral scale.
 
It's the small things that get me, the other day at a busy roundabout, a queue of traffic waiting to go straight across, I want to turn right. Will anyone leave a gap so people like me can go round, not impeding them in any way as they can't go anywhere? Not a chance.

Exactly. Had the same thing recently too. You wouldn't have inconvenienced anyone but nobody has the decency to keep that gap open. A lot of roundabouts up here actually have a box painted there for that reason but people still go in it and block people off.
Perhaps we not more inconsiderate, just getting thicker.
 
Some years ago I bought an old tamahagane kamisori from a Japanese seller. It arrived wrapped in small cloth which I believe is customary in Japanese culture when giving someone a knife. It also came with a small hand written note, neatly sealed in an envelope. I still have them (the cloth is decorated with Japanese symbolism and looks great).

I like that. It shows care even for something that is no longer of use to the seller.
 
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