Top 20 PC Game Results - Preliminary

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First off credit to the OP of the Top 20 thread. I was really looking forward to the results but none came. I wrote a small application in java to help with this as there is a lot of calculations to be performed and simply entering the data was tedious. I couldn't imagine the headache involved having to use pen and paper.

Secondly, I have never written code where bugs didn't eventually emerge over time. This app seemed to work but I think you get the jist of the disclaimer I'm giving. The results may be inaccurate hence preliminary in the title. They are open to revision should I discover a bug in the code.

Thirdly, I took the rules under my own understanding. I spent many hours on this so please if you have criticism keep it sugar coated. I can already hear some of you saying Grand Theft Auto - PS1, What! Quite simply I grouped most series of games together where it made sense. i.e All Battlefields go under Battlefield 2. Morrowind and Oblivion go under Elder Scrolls etc. Same with GTA and most other games on the list. Its probably better to list games I did not group together. All Counter Strikes go under Source. I play Source and am aware how divided the community is over 1.6 vs Source vs 1.5 etc. Half Life and Half Life 2, together they would have dominated the list. It would have been straight up rape. Zelda was grouped in to 64 and SNES. Supreme Commander and Total Annihilation fall under Total Annihilation. Final Fantasy 7 includes all Final Fantasies. Ignore Platform, it includes all different ports etc. i.e Mass Effect is on both PC and 360.

Finally, thanks to all those who took the time to vote. I know it was hard leaving out so many great games. That is the important bit though because people really had to think about what they put down. If it was your Top20 it would have gotten messy after 10-15. Top 5 means you only put down games your really would give a stamp of quality.

Without further ado,
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If you would like the program I used to continue the process or a similar one I will email you the source code and runnable jar file. I warn you though counting the PC Games list and the Console list will take more than a day even with the program. You can contact me: [email protected]

Should the pic not show. http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture1qe3.png

In case you were wondering Mario Kart is 21!
The most comical entries were
Orangebox
Wii Sports
The Sims
 
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Was wondering when this would show up, thank ye.

While I understand the time and effort that must have gone into this, I must throw my sugar coated objection to the grouping decision. I can't understand the reasoning behind this, I'm sure you were expecting this response though. Was this always going to be the case?

Results are hardly suprising.
Edit: No Another World love? booooooooo.
 
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Nice :) Thanks...

Any particular reason that Half Life - PC appears as number 5 and also number 13?

Evidently a bug. I completely missed it. Spent too much reviewing code instead of actual test cases. Apologies. I still maintain that the rest of it should be reasonably accurate. I went through the entire PC game list thing line by line and I have a rough idea in my head so to me at least it looks right.

EDIT:found bug, in renaming the JLabels. The second (lower) Half Life is actually Zelda - A Link to the past (SNES). Will sort out the code tomorrow.
 
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A bit surprised that Wow is so high, because it really is not worth being there. It never did bring anything to MMO besides equipement grind :( Just mass appeal somehow, surely because of it being made by Blizzard.
 
Both picture and link not working for me :(

Any chance of someone printing the results here? If there's no banjo-kazooie I'm gonna be angry...


edit: oh, 'top 20 PC games'... shoulda read that bit first...
 
Disappointed that there is no Baldur's Gate series in the top 20 but I guess I can't have it all :(



Half Life 2 has a separate entry and is at number one.

Baldurs Gate is close to no. 20. I was in the top20 till the last few pages when everyone started to get a hard on for Gran Turismo. Just remember this is just the PC gamers, the list will change when you add in the console gamers. At the moment the list is dominated by PC games, expect a shake up.
 
A bit surprised that Wow is so high, because it really is not worth being there. It never did bring anything to MMO besides equipement grind :( Just mass appeal somehow, surely because of it being made by Blizzard.

WoW had some great scripted fights for raids of 25 and 40, no?
 
Well they are great when you do it a few times, the 100th times they get a bit old. There is no changes its always the same thing.

I got to say that Blizzard did an awesome job on them tho, I can't take that back. I'm a bit biased also because I wasted my social life on this game and I have a bit of anger against it now ;)
 
4 games in top 5 are shooters. very disappointed with people's tastes these days

Interesting observation. Actually most of the top 20 seem to be shooters. As someone who has no interest in shooters at all it was disappointing to see so many of those and no Baldurs Gate, Planescape: torment etc.

Guess I must be in the minorty after all.

Edit: Quite surprising to not see Starcraft in there as well.
 
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First off credit to the OP of the Top 20 thread. I was really looking forward to the results but none came. I wrote a small application in java to help with this as there is a lot of calculations to be performed and simply entering the data was tedious. I couldn't imagine the headache involved having to use pen and paper.

Secondly, I have never written code where bugs didn't eventually emerge over time. This app seemed to work but I think you get the jist of the disclaimer I'm giving. The results may be inaccurate hence preliminary in the title. They are open to revision should I discover a bug in the code.

Thirdly, I took the rules under my own understanding. I spent many hours on this so please if you have criticism keep it sugar coated. I can already hear some of you saying Grand Theft Auto - PS1, What! Quite simply I grouped most series of games together where it made sense. i.e All Battlefields go under Battlefield 2. Morrowind and Oblivion go under Elder Scrolls etc. Same with GTA and most other games on the list. Its probably better to list games I did not group together. All Counter Strikes go under Source. I play Source and am aware how divided the community is over 1.6 vs Source vs 1.5 etc. Half Life and Half Life 2, together they would have dominated the list. It would have been straight up rape. Zelda was grouped in to 64 and SNES. Supreme Commander and Total Annihilation fall under Total Annihilation. Final Fantasy 7 includes all Final Fantasies. Ignore Platform, it includes all different ports etc. i.e Mass Effect is on both PC and 360.

Finally, thanks to all those who took the time to vote. I know it was hard leaving out so many great games. That is the important bit though because people really had to think about what they put down. If it was your Top20 it would have gotten messy after 10-15. Top 5 means you only put down games your really would give a stamp of quality.

Without further ado,
my.php


If you would like the program I used to continue the process or a similar one I will email you the source code and runnable jar file. I warn you though counting the PC Games list and the Console list will take more than a day even with the program. You can contact me: [email protected]

Should the pic not show. http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture1qe3.png

In case you were wondering Mario Kart is 21!
The most comical entries were
Orangebox
Wii Sports
The Sims

throws a few weirds ones out
 
I think these results conclude that a lot of younger people voted.

No way in hell is half Life 2 the best.

It's an on rails fps.

Engine spawned some great things though.

Doom isn't even in the top 20 or streetfighter 2 meh.
 
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Hmm only 2 games in that list that should actually be there, Gran turismo, and Half life, the rest, garbage, mabye not so much Final fantasy 7.

No Tomb Raider, or Tomb Raider 2?
No Doom?
Colin Mcrae Rally?
X wing Alliance?
X-com Apocalypse?
Metal Gear Solid?
Total War series?
 
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