Torrenting on Virgin Media 2Meg

whitecrook

whitecrook

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Hi folks.

I tend to download the same few things on torrent each week,(3 gig or so) and at the start of last month went on a bit of a frenzy and downloaded 70+gig in a few days, also, just tonight I queued up 30gig of stuff and so far a couple of gig has downloaded.

Thing is, i always get good speeds (235K+) at the start, but then it always seems to then hover around 100-111K after that. This doesn't really annoy me I don't mind waiting, but:

Is this a known thing with VM throttling?

Do they throttle, what is their policy?

It also seems if the web browsing slows down a bit as well?

Is throttling IP based?

All of the above, even on 2 Meg?

If they do and this is the result, is there any way round it?


Thanks all.
 
It's Virgin traffic thing, it happens during peak hours. Also how the hell did you manage to download 70g+ in a few days on 2mb while mainly being at 110kb/s? I'm amazed :D
 
It wasn't mainly at 110K, it varied up and down - I couldn't tell whether it was throttling or just the nature of torrent <edit> but it never seems to go less than 100K. But when I do my weekly downloads, they always max out for the hour or 2 that they run.

It took about 5-6 days for that 70gig, which when you do the math is very possible.

Even posting to ocuk, opening forums, refreshing etc, there just seems to be a laggg is really annoying. At other times I can torrent and have no lag. I have QoS set up on my router, which works very nicely.
 
You're hitting the STM thresholds and being throttled for five hours at a time.

Details are here:

http://www.virginmedia.com/help/traffic-management.php

Just don't use it during peak hours but schedule everything to run overnight. There is no way around it - sorry to be blunt but these limits were brought in largely due to people like yourselves downloading and uploading data 24/7 and clogging up the network at peak times.
 
I'm glad you can download your 70gb in 5-6days I really am, I can't even download 10mb without being disconnected to hell & back :/

But you are hitting STM anyhow.
 
Oh I see. I (naively) assumed us lowly 2MB users wouldn't be subject to this sort of thing... But this explains the variance and the speed.

Anyway If I limit the torrent to 75K down, then my web speeds come back to normal so I'm happy either way. I guess giving it that 30K or so of headroom is enough to keep things moving.

Oh yeah mattey1 - that sort of thing sucks I've been there with other ISPs and a crappy net connection is no fun. However been with ntl.virgin now for 4 years right from 300->1M->2M and the connection has been rock solid all along. Except for maybe 1 or 2 times when DNS goes down this has been the best ISP account I ever had. Plus I get phone and TV and net for 22 a month.
 
whitecrook said:
Oh yeah mattey1 - that sort of thing sucks I've been there with other ISPs and a crappy net connection is no fun. However been with ntl.virgin now for 4 years right from 300->1M->2M and the connection has been rock solid all along. Except for maybe 1 or 2 times when DNS goes down this has been the best ISP account I ever had. Plus I get phone and TV and net for 22 a month.
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Yeah I know the feeling, been with Virgin since the Cableinet/Telewest/Blueyonder days on 56k all the way to 512k to 10mb on broadband so about 7 - 8 years maybe longer, never had much problems until this year which sucks. I'm ok with the throttling now 4pm - 9pm is ok, but not being able to use the connection at all is lame.

Sorry just a bit bitter with my connection at the moment lol.

Check the link Vertigo1 gave anyway it will give you full details, Pretty sure it gets throttled to 1mb which works out about between 120 - 160kB/s.
 
So. Does anybody have to hand the settings I should plug in to Utorrents 'scheduler' to allow me to utilise my connection to best effect. i.e. max speed between what times of the day? and reduce it down to 75K between what times?
 
I read that page but I can't work it out. Does it mean if I am caning it between 4pm and 9pm I get throttled, or do I have to have downed a set amount within a set duration and then i get throttled regardless? And how can I tell if it affects me between 4pm-9pm or 10 to 3?
 
how have you not had any of them moaning letters from them yet? lol

also on 2meg i think after you download 300mb during peak times your capped to half speed for 5 hours, then after that you go back to full speed
 
Basically between 10am & 3pm you can download up to 1GB once you go over 1GB you are throttled for 5 hours to 1mb

Between 3pm - 8pm you can "Upload" 200mb if you go over that then your throttled for 5 hours to 1mb

Between 4pm - 9pm you can download up to 500mb once you go over 500mb you are throttled for 5 hours to 1mb

When you are throttled it effects both your download speed & upload speed regardless of which cap you hit.
 
Also the thorttled penalty lasts beyond the STM times. meaning if you get throttled at 4pm it will end at 9pm, but if you reach the limit right at the 9pm mark, it will last untill 2am
 
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