Trail hunting

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This is not a political thread but it touches on animal welfare and the rights of folk to pursue legal avenues of riding to horse across the countryside. If it is made political it will disappear to the realms of SC, it would be nice to discuss it here in a civilised manner.

Personally I believe that there is a sound purpose in the keeping of stables and even packs of hounds to carry out the energetic sport of riding in trail hunting. There are also Gymkana and point to point meetings so a full calendar of events are often held. It adds to the colour if the countryside in autumn and winter.

Fox hunting is rightly banned however there are arguments being made that trail hunting, laying an artificial scent for hounds to follow should be banned also. In my opinion it should not.
 
The same thing probably with any large dog disturbing a wild animal. Accidental encounters will always happen and cannot really be avoided.
 
Isn't one usually disguised to enaqble the hunting of actual foxes...

oh the fox just came across our path and the dogs did what dogs do (insert push laugh here).



If it were something poor people did it would be banned a long time ago and we all know it.

Poor people did kill foxes by shooting to preserve their roosts and flocks. My grandparents did such with a shotgun at night, poor people trap and kill rabbits and hare by netting. Riding to hounds is a rich man or upper middle class preserve and is largely not to kill foxes, barrows are not dug open nowadays although some foxes and other animals do die as a result.
 
Instinctively my answer is no.

But I think the situation needs to be officially looked into. Because at the moment they are relying on activist groups to supply information, when it is in their interest to make the worst case possible.

If an official report confirms the finding that live foxes are getting caught up in these hunts then I'd advocate a ban.

Even on the best hunt sabs information it is probably a lot less than those flattened by cars. I often see foxes in our road at night, they are a very successful species will kill for fun, wiping out a hen coop leaving dead hens behind but will also scavenge from bins and eat carrion too.
 
Whats that got to do with anything?

Its the killing of an animal for fun that people object to, accidental deaths of animals and people on the roads is just a fact of life.

If the intention is not to kill foxes then that removes the objection. I personally in fifty years of driving have killed one badger and at least several pigeons, not on purpose obviously and I am regretful when it happens. I am one of twenty million or so who drive and am probably not unique so the byblow of all these facts of life on our roads is just that. Far exceeding the byblow from a hundred or two reported incidents during trail hunts, in fact probably exceeding the toll from before full scale fox hunting was banned. I am sure our wildlife if asked would not have a preference, car or dog.
 
It's an easy one for people to be outraged about without actually doing anything to affect the situation , going veggie or vegan takes effort for instance , so just look like you care but don't give a **** is the way to go

Every year in the UK around 1.2 billion land animals are slaughtered for human consumption. This includes over 1 billion chickens, 15 million turkeys, 14 million sheep, 2.8 million cattle, over 10 million pigs and almost 15 million sheep and lambs.
Btw, not replying any more than this one as it's late I'm the year for another holiday and you know I will end up getting one

It's almost as if being bundled along under the chassis of a fast car is more acceptable then being attacked by dogs. But I appreciate your sentiment and wish you a happy new year.
 
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