Transfer Fees Have Gone Mad

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Hulk for £32m to Zenit
Witsel for £32m to Zenit
Ronaldo wanting to move from Real (Man City would need to offer £95m)


The EPL, La Liga, SKY & the billionaire owners are going to cause the game to implode big style, it's unsustainable :(
 
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You're wrong, on both accounts. It has smeg all to do with billionaire owners, Utd aren't sustained by billionaire owners even if they are that rich. Utd bring in that much money every year, as do Barca/Real(to a degree, their tv deals in La Liga are patently unfair in every single way you can think of).

30mil transfers started happening in 97-98, how much did Ba or Cisse cost? How much was Kompany, how much was De Jong, 18mil when he only had I forget if its 6 months or year left on his contract, but it was get him for 18mil then and there or wait, get someone else they didn't want and have a lot more competition for De Jong on a free transfer.

Transfers fee's still range from tiny to huge, and it is sustainable because the vast majority of the money comes from advertising, though directly through tv deals the money those broadcasting companies pay is from advertising. Football is one of if not the most watched sport in the world, billions of people pay to watch it, advertisers worldwide pay billions to advertise on peak tv. TV money in the early 90's was next to nothing, tv money today, well, okay in 1-2 years a new 3billion deal is already done.

You can get some crappy car for £6k, or buy a Ferrari for 500k, you can buy a tiny flat/house somewhere crappy for 50k, or buy a multi million pound mansion where you actually want to live. You can buy a footballer for free, or you can pay whatever you want for one. Ronaldo has directly led to titles being won, millions upon millions in sponsorship deals that are vastly increased in value because Ronaldo is part of the Real Madrid brand at the moment. It's an investment, not just peeing money down the drain.

As with EVERY OTHER INDUSTRY WORLDWIDE, some investments prove to be fantastic, some prove to be horrific.... can you explain why football should be lots of business's running completely risk free, while the rest of the business in the world isn't?

TBF I was alluding more to the Chelsea/Man City/PSG/Anzhi owners.

You are indeed correct re Man Utd's multi-billionaire owners not spending vast funds of their own money on transfers, in fact they do the opposite and actually make great returns from their leveraged ownership of Man Utd which is mortgaged up to the hilt :p

Re the Sky money, it WILL reach saturation point and the bubble WILL burst.

Even at the moment, clubs who are relegated (even with parachute) payments are financially hamstrung and/or can go burst (Portsmouth/Hull) because of the anomaly of what Sky pay for the rights to the EPL

Hopefully UEFA's financial fair play rules will help make the European game a more level playing field :cool:
 
Just thought I'd point out, there is no bubble. There is TV money, its increasing, if you spend more than there is now on the assumption of future money, that's nothing short of bad business. The tv market for football is ever expanding, while the growth of that tv market will slow and eventually halt, there is no reason it would go down in any significant amount so there is no bubble to burst.

If you spend the money you're getting and no more, there is all but no financial risk. THe clubs that have gotten in trouble have simply spent more than they have to get higher, and failed badly. Pompie = bunch of players without clauses in contract, a wage for premier league, a wage for championship, a wage for league 1, etc, etc, and that has all but destroyed the club. Other teams do have that, Blackpool have done phenomenally well, they both spent almost nothing to get promoted, spent almost nothing when they did, and had few costs to cover when they got relegated with wage decreases covering the difference from lack of income.

A sensible club will never get in trouble, a club risking it all for success will, like any other industry, growing or stable, get themselves into trouble, there is incredible margin for a team to make a monumental profit being in the prem league as well if people really wanted to.

Bubble implies that the money going into the EPL will suddenly vanish, but that just isn't going to happen. I think tv money will continue to grow for a while, taper off as we get to the point most countries in the world can watch plenty of live games(we're almost there now). Then we'll get another influx when they finally let people get like a season pass for their teams or all games, £200-400 a year to get a channel with your chosen teams games live, all of them.

EDIT:- Teams treating it like a bubble and spending money now on future income are in trouble but they'd be in trouble anyway, that is mostly teams spending to stay up or get promoted. I think Pompie and West Ham both spent money they hadn't earned yet which is beyond retarded of both of them, they got loans secured against future ticket sales. Even worse when you get relegated and the ticket's either don't sell out or need to go down in price. West Ham got caught in debt, and then without any income for like 1-2 seasons as they'd already spent the ticket moneyy which was just going to the bank as it came in.

The mad thing is how good scouting and hard work trumps overspending on crap players anyway. Get Fat Sam on a big wage who makes lots of expensive poor buys, or Pardew on a tiny contract, who has done only sensible things, then get 5th in the league. Simple and cheap is very doable, there are great value deals every single year. Bad decisions and bad managers don't mean a mental market or there wouldn't be any good value players any more.

Fair points, however the current system only allows an elite 2 or 3 to win the EPL or the CL (with the odd shock in the CL)

Last season only 8 out of the 20 EPL clubs made a profit :eek:

Some where spending 70%+ of their T/O on wages alone

Thankfully it looks like the EPL are taking measures to ensure the next SKY deal payday isn't just spent on transfer fees & wages (according to this article in the Guardian)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/sep/06/premier-league-salary-cap
 
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