Triple channel Kit help!

Roscoe1724 · 28 Sep 2010 at 14:40

OK guys,

I currently have in my basket some Corsair Dominator GT 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 16000C8 2000MHz Triple Channel Kit

I will be using a Asus P6X58D-E Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 Motherboard
with the Intel i7 950.

Is this memory ok with the motherboard?

Is there a better memory out there I could have without increasing the price too much?

Whats the deal with Timings vs Frequency? It confuses me a lot.
The Corsair is rated at 8-9-8-24 @ 2000mhz
I have just read that I can force this to 6-6-6-15 @ 1600mhz
or
8-8-8-24 @2160mhz
all of which without moving the voltage from 1.65v

What would you do and why? Is there anything out there can beats this at a similar price?

Thanks in advance.

PS. I'll post up my FULL intended build very soon once I get this memory issue sorted out so you can tell me what you think overall.

Thanks again

Roscoe

Admiral Huddy · 28 Sep 2010 at 14:47

Welcome to the Forums.

Firstly, the higher frequency comes at a cost to the latency of the RAM, so the higher the frequency the RAM timings are increased. Likewise, if the frequency is dropped then you can tighten the timings. Secondly, most systems today benefit hugely from having higher bus/memory speeds rather than the latency, which is less important as it once was. So my advise is go for the higher frequency for some overclocking headroom and tighten the timings if you don't run at the quoted speeds.

With that said, you'll notice little difference in performance by buying the the standard XMS http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-282-CS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1392 which are £50 cheaper over he GTs you are thinking of.

Roscoe1724 · 28 Sep 2010 at 15:17

Admiral Huddy said:
Welcome to the Forums.

Firstly, the higher frequency comes at a cost to the latency of the RAM, so the higher the frequency the RAM timings are increased. Likewise, if the frequency is dropped then you can tighten the timings. Secondly, most systems today benefit hugely from having higher bus/memory speeds rather than the latency, which is less important as it once was. So my advise is go for the higher frequency for some overclocking headroom and tighten the timings if you don't run at the quoted speeds.

With that said, you'll notice little difference in performance by buying the the standard XMS http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-282-CS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1392 which are £50 cheaper over he GTs you are thinking of.

WOW... just... WOW!

Ya know I posted the same question on about 4 different performance computing forums and this was the only one to provide users with clear concise information. Thank you!!!

With regards to the choice of memory, I opted for that particular one for 2 reasons.

1) I like the cooling system that was supplied. I would love to talk to you more about my cooling solution if you are willing, as this is also causing some conflict in my head.

2) I like the fact that it was XMP ready. Im not an experianced overclocker and, in all honesty, I was not planning on overclocking the system I have planned until such times as I required the speed boost for my purposes (Gaming/Animation/Video and Audio Editing). So having such a function can only make life easier for a budding OCer?

I may be wildly inaccurate in my line of thought, so please, tell me when im being stupid.

Regards,

Roscoe

Admiral Huddy · 28 Sep 2010 at 15:55

No you are not being being stupid by asking.

1. Generally, unless you are overvolting your memory considerably then the need for elaborate cooling isn't so important.

2. XMP is only an SPD equivalent of different settings by selecting a different profile but nothing you couldn't do yourself. If your not an overclocking guu then maybe these modules aren't for you.

The 1600MHz versions maybe best suited to you as these have an XMP of XMP 9-9-9-24 values at 1600MHz, 1.65V

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-205-CS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1389

You can pick my brains anytime

[email protected] - but don't tell everyone

Roscoe1724 · 28 Sep 2010 at 16:12

My line of though was that if I could get the hot air from the memory moved away as fast as possible it would be exhausted from the chassis quicker, thereby reducing the overall chassis temps which would have a knock on effect with the other components in the system.

Is this being too hopefull?

When I say I dont have the intention of overclocking I ment, RIGHT away. I like the sounds of the ASUS TurboV utility that comes with the chosen motherboard and if I find it sufficently informative ans easy to use than I may get into OCing stuff sooner than expected.

Overclocking in general scares the living.... soul *cough*... out of me. I dont exactly have a money tree so the thought of potentially destroying some expensive equipment is quite daunting, but I like having the option open to me.

This is partially also the reason why I have opted to go for a reasonably pricey setup (I'll show you the full intended setup in a short while). I want this system to be able to hold its ground for a good 3/4 years with perhaps some small scale upgrades.
I'll be looking at a full scale overhaul/rebuild in about 5 years time.

Its main uses will be: Pretty Extreme Gaming/Heavy Duty 3D Animation and large scale video editing.

I'll email you momentarily with the full intended system spec and my cooling solution for critique.

Huge thanks again

Roscoe

Admiral Huddy · 28 Sep 2010 at 16:22

Well you could post them here.. There are plenty of members here that are good at that. If you are buying a new system, then it might be a good idea to post your proposed system in General Hardware and ask for criticism there (make sure you read the FAQs about competitor links

)

IMHO, having an extreme gaming system for 5 years is a long shoot regardless of the money you through at it and buying the most expensive isn't always the best.

My line of though was that if I could get the hot air from the memory moved away as fast as possible it would be exhausted from the chassis quicker, thereby reducing the overall chassis temps which would have a knock on effect with the other components in the system.

Although your line of thought is correct, providing you have a decent case with good air flow, then this shouldn't be a problem and memory heat is only ever a problem if your are overvolting which if don't think will be necessary in your case.

Roscoe1724 · 28 Sep 2010 at 16:45

Yeah, 5 years for gaming with FULL graphic detail is a long shot and highly optimistic.
However if I can get 3 years out of it as this level and a further 1, maybe 2 years out of it on Medium/Low Graphical settings I'll be more than happy.
Bearing in mind that I can/will do minor upgrades such as Graphics/Memory if required.... but a FULL rebuild will be about 5 years from now.

I dont really forsee 3D Animation programs advancing THAT much over the next 5 years so that (I dont think) is really a problem.

I have posted a similar thread to the email i just sent you on the General hardware section.