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TSMC uses AMD EPYC CPU's.

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Interesting case study HERE about TSMC and it's partnership with HPE and why they use EPYC for their factories/data centers.

Just thought some of you might be interested. :)
 
i wonder if they get a discount at all for producing the CPUs :D

it is a funny situation where the product you have made is optimising your production of those products.
 
More and more people are using AMD's server chips, Intel lost 9% volume in the last quarter alone while AMD gained 286% volume. But, if TSMC didn't use the chips they manufacture it wouldn't look good. :D
 
humbug said:
More and more people are using AMD's server chips, Intel lost 9% volume in the last quarter alone while AMD gained 286% volume. But, if TSMC didn't use the chips they manufacture it wouldn't look good. :D
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Makes you wonder what CPU's were in AMD's company laptops prior to Ryzen :p
 
Cyber-Mav said:
They could just order cpu less servers then slap some cpus in for free off the production line.
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If only it were that simple, AMD design the architecture, TSMC literally print the circuitry on a silicon platter and then the chips are sent off somewhere else for assembly.
 
I guess what goes around comes around.

Makes sense to go with EPYC for new virtualization servers anyway, the cores per £ calculation stacks up - which is exactly what they want for that workload.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
They could just order cpu less servers then slap some cpus in for free off the production line.
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TSMC don't make CPUs, they only make the chiplets. The IO die comes from GloFlo, the substrate comes from Singapore (I think), the package is from somewhere else and the entire thing is assembled in Malaysia.
 
Ahh if its split up then it stop the factories making a few extra overnight and selling on corner shops. Happens a lot with stuff made in china
 
philo-sofa said:
EPIC are the best product, and I imagine they get a discount of some kind. It all makes a satisfying kind of sense.
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Why would TSMC get a discount on EPYC CPUs? Do TSMC give AMD a discount on their wafers?

Besides, TSMC aren't buying EPYC CPUs. TSMC aren't even buying anything from AMD, they're buying complete server systems from HP. And there's no way HP are giving TSMC a discount just because at some point in history TSMC made 50% of 1 component used.
 
LePhuronn said:
Why would TSMC get a discount on EPYC CPUs? Do TSMC give AMD a discount on their wafers?

Besides, TSMC aren't buying EPYC CPUs. TSMC aren't even buying anything from AMD, they're buying complete server systems from HP. And there's no way HP are giving TSMC a discount just because at some point in history TSMC made 50% of 1 component used.
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You don’t think it likely one of AMD’s core business partners upstream gets a discount from a key downstream partner?

Generally in business, you do get a discount for this kind of thing.
 
philo-sofa said:
You don’t think it likely one of AMD’s core business partners upstream gets a discount from a key downstream partner?
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Unless AMD are paying HP to subsidise TSMC then no, not really. Especially if you read the article about how TSMC developed and specced their new systems, the choice of EPYC was on merit, not because they're partners with AMD. Now, of course, that's going to be corporate fluff and not entirely the truth.
 
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