Turning Right

maklabouhlel · 15 Apr 2017 at 11:27

If you want to turn right at this junction after stopping at the lights, which is the correct route to take, red, black or in between?

If I stop/start at red X, cars sometimes overtake me from right whilst turning, and if I stop/start at black X, cars start undertaking me. Is it better to position the bike in between to avoid both?

FrenchTart · 15 Apr 2017 at 11:42

Red is the safest position but essentially you want to make it hard/impossible for cards to overtake or undertake (to turn right). Any driver over or undertaking there is a bit of an idiot to be honest.

Lethal` · 15 Apr 2017 at 12:00

Centre of the lane as a car would

maklabouhlel · 15 Apr 2017 at 12:00

FrenchTart said:
Red is the safest position but essentially you want to make it hard/impossible for cards to overtake or undertake (to turn right). Any driver over or undertaking there is a bit of an idiot to be honest.

So in-between then. That is the only way. They get so close sometimes.

NoNameNoNumber · 15 Apr 2017 at 12:01

Yeah hog the lane.

PermaBanned · 15 Apr 2017 at 13:22

Little confused tbh - looks to me like there's three lanes, one left turning and two right turning lanes. If you're in the central one, or the leftmost right turning lane, what's the issue with cars overtaking in the right hand lane? Does it suddenly go into a single lane road or something?

FrenchTart · 15 Apr 2017 at 13:37

PermaBanned said:
Little confused tbh - looks to me like there's three lanes, one left turning and two right turning lanes. If you're in the central one, or the leftmost right turning lane, what's the issue with cars overtaking in the right hand lane? Does it suddenly go into a single lane road or something?

I assumed from the weirdness in the pic that it was actually just two lanes but looking at it you're right:

https://www.google.com.br/maps/@53....4!1s-Iw-hkW1OY1hmcwMUo1t-A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I'd hug the left hand side of the right hand lane personally.

PermaBanned · 15 Apr 2017 at 13:49

Ah yeah, that makes it clearer. Two lanes going straight on and the right hand lane is right turning.

mattyfez · 17 Apr 2017 at 09:27

Lanes look quite tight so I'd go down the middle or the right hand lane.

#Chri5# · 20 Apr 2017 at 13:12

I'd be taking the "primary" position, which to me would be in the middle of the lane (using the advanced stop line if the lights are red) and thus stop all but the biggest of numpties from coming past until you've completed the turn.

https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/k...izn20130830-Effective-traffic-riding-part-1-0

Rroff · 20 Apr 2017 at 13:16

Personally I'd have pulled off right through the lights on foot and gone around via the lights - looks like a bit of a nasty junction to negotiate on a bike if its avoidable.

lordrobs · 20 Apr 2017 at 13:55

Slap bang in the middle of the lane for me, using the advanced start lane to take up that position, moving to the left only after I'd cleared the traffic island of the road that you are turning in to.