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Further details here: http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=18359
Pics here: http://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/tvrpreviewevent.asp
Thoughts? I loved the old Sagaris, and it's good to see them making another go of it.
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Further details here: http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=18359
Pics here: http://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/tvrpreviewevent.asp
Thoughts? I loved the old Sagaris, and it's good to see them making another go of it.
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What was wrong with the first one?
Also that looks mighty sexual.
Also that looks mighty sexual.
There was nothing 'wrong' with it, TVR just went out of business.
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Build quality still wasn't the best, you can see why they went under, if they can improve some key things about the cars they should do alright.
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The original Sagaris wheels were too understated to suit the car. These look better, but need to be anthracite IMO
BTW, do you pronouce Sagaris like sag-arris, or like sa-jarris?
BTW, do you pronouce Sagaris like sag-arris, or like sa-jarris?
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I thought it was Sa-gar-is.
Looks good. Does the gear stick and hand break get in the way of the instruments, or is it just the pic?
Looks good. Does the gear stick and hand break get in the way of the instruments, or is it just the pic?
Looks like they are gonna focus on refining existing design to produce more reliable and drivable cars then. Can't be a bad thing. I hope it's successful as their cars are gorgeous!
I would prefer to see the T350 wheels on there though.
I would prefer to see the T350 wheels on there though.
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Ahh I thought the new russian owners took over and then they brought out the Sagaris.
My mistake indeed!
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Just the pic, look through thte pics on the TVR car club site and you will see.
They should never have gone with the Speed6 engine, the AJP8 was/is a far more robust engine, the sp6 was just a bit more liveable day to day (when it didn't destroy its own cams and valve followers).
The interior is a cost cutting exercise as they want to cover multiple markets (LHD and RHD) so the stylistic TVR interior of old is gone.
The price point of this rather focused drivers car is going to be far too high, TVRs are meant to be cheap giving a broad appeal to the enthusiast. WIth no driver aides most people will go for a Porker
Also TVR coming back into existence just as all the remaining warranties are finishing hmmmm....
The interior is a cost cutting exercise as they want to cover multiple markets (LHD and RHD) so the stylistic TVR interior of old is gone.
The price point of this rather focused drivers car is going to be far too high, TVRs are meant to be cheap giving a broad appeal to the enthusiast. WIth no driver aides most people will go for a Porker
Also TVR coming back into existence just as all the remaining warranties are finishing hmmmm....
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That is a ****ing gorgeous motor!!!!
Such a shame it's a TVR though...... It'll fall apart after a month..
Such a shame it's a TVR though...... It'll fall apart after a month..
Well....
If it still uses the Speed 6 without a clear breakdown of ALL the changes they have made to it to make it work and run reliably, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. I drove one of the first Sagaris's and it still felt very unsorted, not least its rear end damping which would see the back of the car lift off over slight rises. I want to see TVR back and delivering on their constant promises but I suspect they won’t.
No longer can they get away with making cars with caveats such as "well you can't really use them day to day" (and I mean 20K per year not 5 miles to a station each day!) because the world has moved on. Porsche have been able to do it for 40 years, and even Ferrari is getting close. TVR needs more than a loud bark and a set of nice numbers on their brochures and websites, numbers they usually fail to get close to as I suspect the pricing of this car will be in 911 territory too.
I like what TVR is trying to do but I detest the way they treated their customers over the years, were never clear on problems everyone new were there and took the "stick your head in the sand" approach to customer feedback. I hope they get this one right......but I will put money on the fact they won’t and it will fail, not least in the current climate. Love to be wrong this time around because if they get it right…..
If it still uses the Speed 6 without a clear breakdown of ALL the changes they have made to it to make it work and run reliably, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. I drove one of the first Sagaris's and it still felt very unsorted, not least its rear end damping which would see the back of the car lift off over slight rises. I want to see TVR back and delivering on their constant promises but I suspect they won’t.
No longer can they get away with making cars with caveats such as "well you can't really use them day to day" (and I mean 20K per year not 5 miles to a station each day!) because the world has moved on. Porsche have been able to do it for 40 years, and even Ferrari is getting close. TVR needs more than a loud bark and a set of nice numbers on their brochures and websites, numbers they usually fail to get close to as I suspect the pricing of this car will be in 911 territory too.
I like what TVR is trying to do but I detest the way they treated their customers over the years, were never clear on problems everyone new were there and took the "stick your head in the sand" approach to customer feedback. I hope they get this one right......but I will put money on the fact they won’t and it will fail, not least in the current climate. Love to be wrong this time around because if they get it right…..