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Not sure if this should have gone in GD / If there is like a Twitch thread, searched and couldn't find one, so sorry if there is something Twitch related!

I was speaking to a friend in this coffee shop I visit and she said her BF got tipped £400 from ONE person! Now, I'm not under any illusion that the same could happen to me, he's tallented and is actually good at games.

But, for the general gamer, can Twitch earn a bit of money, even if it is just paying for the odd coffee here and there by simply streaming when you play games?

One scenario is, when playing Cities Skylines, and I dunno I'm guessing people can chime in on your creations and offer their opinions too?
 
If you get viewers, followers and subscribers than I imagine that you can make a nice tidy amount from it... but that's easier said than done I feel. I have tried my hand at Twitch and often streamed for hours with no-one viewing. I've advertised streams on social media etc but I think you have to have that niche part to your stream.

There is money to be made as I've seen a stream whereby a streamer known as Dr Disrespect pretty much earned my annual salary in the space of 40 minutes.
 
You generally need a camera and to be either good at the game or entertaining, or preferably both. There are loads and loads of small streamers that get by on a small audience of like 30-50 people and end up with around 400-500 subs per month. Not amazing money, but they get to play games for a living I guess.

Then there are those that are small for ages until something happens on stream that goes viral, or they get hosted by a big streamer and they suddenly go to 300 viewers over night. Theres a fair bit of luck involved to get noticed. Also I think reddit can really help if you make entertaining content for a popular game.
 
You need one of two three things to earn decent money on Twitch:

1) Be massive in the community of the game you're streaming already or already have a following on YouTube.

2) Stream everyday for 5+ hours a day and hope you're entertaining enough to build a viewer base or have a clip of your stream go viral.

3) Be a girl with massive **** and whore yourself out. Basically be a cam girl without having to take your clothes off.
 
I love watching twitch and i use my amazon prime sub to Lirik. We probably have twitch on more than Sky in the house. I haven't donated though. You can make an absolute fortune though if you are good infront of the mic/cam. I have tried it but i get that soaked up in the game, i don't talk much. Which would make a very boring stream to watch.

Timthetatman is another streamer i watch. He has around 20k subscribers. Which before donations alone will give him an income of £50k minimum a month (some partnered streamers get different rates). The monies there if you have that follower base. I try to tell my non gaming friends this and they get so mind blown.
 
Can't imagine I'd be entertaining then, people sometimes say you should go on Youtube or stuff because of the random stuff I come out with and my weird Yorkshire accent, but this is probably ammused Mancunians, honestly some of them must have never been to Yorkshire, not sure I could combine it with games because I'm not brilliant at games lol
 
You'd like to think it was all about personality but it isn't really, you get people who are bone dry with monotone voices with thousands of viewers and the autistic screechers like Tyler1. Just all seems a bit random whether you'll hit it off or some bigger streamer will host you and kickstart a following.
 
Random guy I know that streams with an average of 3 viewers was getting £30-40 a month in subs and ad revenue + a few people gave him csgo skins that were worth quite a bit.
 
willhub said:
Not sure if this should have gone in GD / If there is like a Twitch thread, searched and couldn't find one, so sorry if there is something Twitch related!

I was speaking to a friend in this coffee shop I visit and she said her BF got tipped £400 from ONE person! Now, I'm not under any illusion that the same could happen to me, he's tallented and is actually good at games.

But, for the general gamer, can Twitch earn a bit of money, even if it is just paying for the odd coffee here and there by simply streaming when you play games?

One scenario is, when playing Cities Skylines, and I dunno I'm guessing people can chime in on your creations and offer their opinions too?
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i have often got into debates on here about earnings having done much of the recording and streaming behind the scenes much of the donations are FAKE ! people just lap it up look at numbers assume its real.most of it is from business or people giving money to people then looped back to the original person for somekind of promotion or event.

most peope hate pewdiepie but he actually covered this recently which i was surprised about but glad now many people might realize people arent getting most of the donations you see being donated that are high figures.

most of the people who earn money from twitch to a decent standard are backed by someone or company and promoted heavily. to get there you need to put in work like hrs have something special or jump in on a game trend that just takes off and hope you on the wave as it happens..or be a pro at something. very few will earn enough to make a actual. wage.
 
One of the key points I always see as advice being given to new streamers is don't start streaming on Twitch with the only goal of trying to make money. Just start playing games you want to play, enjoy what you are doing and have fun with it. This way you will come off more natural and your stream/content won't feel forced, which inherently will lead to a growth of your channel.

Of course there are certain character type streamers (Tyler1 and DrDisrespect have already been mentioned) that have found a niche within the community that attracts viewers and they run with it however I personally think those roles are somewhat limited.

Another small note, variety streaming is a lot more difficult to build on than picking one specific game and playing that every stream. When playing the same game you are appealing to that viewer base, and if you are consistent then you will keep appealing to that community and will grow within. However with variety streaming, if you are playing a different game each time you stream or play each new release you want to then you will be hitting a new community each time so it's harder to grow.

Apart from that having a consistent schedule that you stream to will really help you out. Even if you only stream twice a week, if it's at the same time for those two days week in week out people will know when they can catch you and it will help with growth. Social media is also a great tool in interacting with your viewers, letting them know when your going live, talking about games etc etc.

If you really want to take it on and grow, there are loads of little things you can do to help you on they way, these are only some basic helpers. There is the potential to make some good money, however the market is getting increasingly saturated as more and more people try it so it's getting harder to get in to. However if you want to pursue it don't let that stop you, I follow quite a few small streams and they do really well off Twitch even with small viewer numbers, mainly because they have built a community that enjoys watching and supporting them.
 
There is a great deal of money to be earned from Twitch subs and donations. There was a massive issue with chargebacks. So a donation would be made then, then charged back later so the streamer would have to pay back the money plus fee's, however twitch and paypal has started to address that now.

Broughy1322 is the best example I can think of silly amounts of money being donated by his community. Also neebs gaming generally do a Thursday live stream and make thousands over the duration. Also bear in mind that the affiliate subscription system which is run by Twitch is a profit share. 50/50 at first. So if you have 1000 4.99 that 2,495 per month.
 
If you are charismatic and entertaining you can make a career out of that if you want to. That has always been the case and I wonder why are people surprised now?
 
Spuj said:
One of the key points I always see as advice being given to new streamers is don't start streaming on Twitch with the only goal of trying to make money. Just start playing games you want to play, enjoy what you are doing and have fun with it. This way you will come off more natural and your stream/content won't feel forced, which inherently will lead to a growth of your channel.
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If you only take one bit advice away from this thread, make it this.
 
Seriously the only way now is to get a sex change and a boob job. Unless you are a beast at gaming and extremely funny.

It's crazy how women can make like £500K a year just by rubbing a mic. ASMR apparently
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Seriously the only way now is to get a sex change and a boob job. Unless you are a beast at gaming and extremely funny.

It's crazy how women can make like £500K a year just by rubbing a mic. ASMR apparently
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Blame the millions of extremely thirsty male viewers, not the women, they're just being smart. Making top tier escort money without needing to degrade themselves or come into physical contact with these men.
 
Ayahuasca said:
Blame the millions of extremely thirsty male viewers, not the women, they're just being smart. Making top tier escort money without needing to degrade themselves or come into physical contact with these men.
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Also I don't think that there's all that many women actually making a living doing it. See a lot more young men making their living screaming obscenities any time I browse through twitch. :P

Honestly though I think that most people who put the time and effort in will find some level of success, regardless of who they are or when they start, and there are lots of people who on paper have everything going for them who don't put the time and effort in and just fade away.

I agree though, don't do it to make money, do it because you enjoy it.
 
NeverWinter said:
If you only take one bit advice away from this thread, make it this.
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I do think you need to approach it professionally.

I have a mate who streams. He's basically a mate I found whilst playing games. He is an absolute beast. Easily in the top 1% in the world. However he puts zero effort into promotion so he has on average 0-1 viewers.

He has made a couple of youtube videos. Even those without promotion only have a few dozen views when he's better than the likes of Nkuch who gets millions of views.

So even if you are a beast at gaming you still need to put a lot into promoting yourself via reddit, twitter, facebook, etc. I've even got more views on a youtube video and I'm nowhere near as skilled as this guy.

So I think just playing games won't work. You need a lot more than that. Unless your a good looking, big breasted or scantily clad female.
 
It was more; Do it for the love - Don't do it thinking you're going to be No.1 streamer in the world, it may come but it takes time and a lot of people think they'll be making thousands instantly.

I for one know I couldn't be a streamer, as much as I love playing games I couldn't be bothered with every aspect that comes from doing it professionally.
 
The only way to make money on Twitch now is be a booby streamer, it's like youtube for the average person it's way too big to build up a viewerbase to make a living from streaming. You can't go in expecting to make money straight away and any new streamer that has huge donate buttons and amazon wishlists from the start are doing it for the wrong reasons.
 
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