Tyre Nichols murder

[Felon]

So this 29 year old guy, got "apprehended" for something or another, then was beaten to death by five cops in Memphis TN. He died in hospital 3 days later.

From what I can tell, one of the cops kicks this guy in the head so hard he injures his foot, in another view you can see a different cop literally thrashing him with his nightstick, then a different cop punching him in the head whilst he stumbles around, this is after he's been pepper sprayed.

Tyre Nichols: Bodycam footage shows father-of-one calling for his mother as he is beaten by officers before his death

Protests are taking place in at least nine cities across the US after the bodycam footage was released. Mr Nichols' mother has pleaded for peace saying "tearing up the streets" is "not what my son stood for".

news.sky.com

Memphis police released all of the bodycam videos, in one of them Tyre can be heard screaming for his mum, it's terrible stuff. They also released CCTV video from a camera down the street, where you can get a better sense of scale in regard to the beating they give him.. It looks like a bunch of hyenas surrounding an injured animal.

Everyone involved is black (I think) so my IQ isn't high enough to determine whether or not this is race related in 2023.... But my god - these aren't police officers, they're just a violent mob wearing a uniform with all the gear to go with it!

All five officers have been charged with second degree murder and a bunch of other charges (kidnapping, misconduct etc), apparently they're all going to plead "not guilty"

US policing is far, far too aggressive. Police officers are supposed to be one of the core pillars of the community, people you can trust, people who are there to help - but these US cops are just terrifying.

 

[Felon]

They've all been sacked it would appear. Is there a history behind this? Odd that 5 cops would be at one incident. Hideous, to beat a guy to death, and know your own body cam is recording you doing it.
The US is a remarkably worrying place at times.

Yeah I know, it’s bizarre - they’ve all been fired and charged with murder.

They all wear those bodycams, they all know they’re recording.

I mean, this isn’t just a case of “going over the top” with unreasonable force, against someone committing a crime who is resisting, it’s full on brutality against an innocent man..

It’s baffling.

 

[Felon]

For me it feels like the quality and calibre of the people being hired as police officers, is so low they’re getting the lowest of the low, just total dregs.

It feels like American cops just go off at the drop of a hat, from 0-9000 in an instant.

It’s a totally broken country, I don’t see any pathway to it getting fixed, anytime soon..

 

[Felon]

The way they approached him at the start was frightening, it looked like they were really after him, regardless of whatever he had allegedly done.

People say “he shouldn’t have ran” or whatever, but at the start - the way the police try to apprehend him is just frightening and violent, I think running away was a natural reaction to a legitimate threat.

It’s so strange to see a country with so much money and resources, which simultaneously lectures the rest of the world on what to do - so drastically lose control of its ****.

 

[Felon]

I don’t get this argument about how he shouldn’t have resisted arrest…

5 men attacked him, in a full on brutal assault, an assault so severe it killed him after 3 days in hospital.

There’s no excuse for it, he was brutalised and beaten to a pulp by an out of control mob wearing police uniforms, who’ve now all been charged with murder.

 

[Felon]

I know it sounds heartless here, but that's not what I'm aiming for, only the logical processing of the situation and why the "do not resist arrest" remains a good idea even when being attacked here if you are in the US. Because the alternative is almost guaranteed a "worse" outcome.

Sitting in a safe armchair, trying to solve this like it’s some logic problem isn’t really helpful or practically useful.

Where you’re approached by 5x police officers, who are physically assaulting you, screaming conflicting commands at you, whilst beating you senseless - isn’t going to be solved by simply saying the victim should have done X or Y.

Such a situation is horrendously messy, frightening, dangerous and out of control.

It’s unreasonable to expect civilian citizens or general members of the public, to make good/correct decisions when they’re being dragged from their cars have having the **** kicked out of them, by people who are paid to serve and protect them.

 

[Felon]

This whole “he resisted arrest” argument is stupid.

I just watched the first section of video again.

Compliance was basically impossible, they’re screaming at him to lay on the ground which he is doing, however the officers have hold of his arm so he can’t lay flat.

The whole time - it’s just a maelstrom of total chaos, eventually they try to taser him and he legs it, and I don’t blame him for that.

So yes - technically he resisted arrest, but I think it’s stupid to really labour that point, because the arrest itself was so violent and incompetent - most reasonable innocent people would react in the same way.

 

[Felon]

Why have lower IQ cops though?

Is it some sort of idea to prevent cops from questioning things?

I’d have thought if you have more intelligent people, they’d be better at making decisions under pressure or in difficult situations.

Seems strange.

I do agree with the point that IQ testing is a bit iffy.

 

[Felon]

According to that article: too high IQ cops will get bored and leave the job early. And they don’t want to invest a lot in police training for them to leave.

Reading between the lines, they probably want people who don’t ask questions and just do the job.

I guess there’s a cost associated with it. Ergo you get people who are idiots, can’t control themselves, can’t reason and end up beating innocent people to death….

Seems totally self defeating.