U.F.O'S

The only thing i will say is giving two sides of the story.

Battle of LA 1942

The first account of a Government firing on a UFO.

Firstly the US Army scored approx 1000 direct hits on the object.

Q) How do we know it was a UFO
A) How did the object not come down, what in the 40's can withstand sustaining its flight when hit by that many rounds from flack cannons and howitzers etc

Also the pictures and video footage of it at the time could not be faked.

Thats all the evidence of proof that i need.
 
magick said:
That's a bit different from saying there aren't any extra terrestials which you originalt did.
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We are getting into semantics but I didn't say that extra-terrestrials couldn't exist, it does however seem more likely that the government policy of denial is simply because almost all sightings are not of alien craft.

magick said:
UFOs/ETs are real and the government knows it. Just look at how many astronauts and former millitary personel are going public.

The reason they denie it is because they have a vested interest in keeping it secret and the people not thinking thinking to much outside the box.
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And I could equally argue that the former military personnel and astronauts have a vested interest - namely that they can sell the stories. That or being subjected to high Gs is liable to addle your brain to a degree. Either way the point is simple, just because the government denies something doesn't automatically mean the reverse is true. Keep a healthy scepticism about what you are told but don't just reserve your doubts for the government.

magick said:
It kind of puts things into perspective when you relise that the universe has many higly evolved life forms with amazing technology and we have these little power mongers wanting to tax us, tell us what to do and start wars in our name. People may start to see the global elite aren't really as elite and significant as they like to think they are.
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Hold up a second, aren't the global elite reptilians with more power than we could ever imagine? We need to get this sorted out before proceeding, either they as the global elite are remarkably powerful or they aren't but you can't have it both ways.
 
magick, I bet a minimum of 50% of that is made up carp.

The aliens told us to stay off the moon because they have a base there? Seriously....

At first your post was quite interested but once stuff like that started it lost all credibility (not that it really had any in the first place)
 
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According to a Dr. Aleksandr Kasantsev, Buzz Aldrin took color movie film of the UFOs from inside the module, and continued filming them after he and Armstrong went outside.
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Buzz was clearly off his **** at the time.

On a serious note though, where is this video?
 
Tilting unstable ufo's were probably man made, i think the germans were working on them in WW2 which the americans and probably british got hold of in the end, i suspect they fixed those problems by now.
 
Radiation said:
i think the germans were working on them in WW2 which the americans and probably british got hold of in the end, i suspect they fixed those problems by now.
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Radiation said:
While most stuff is questionable i find the nasa videos to be pretty credible, see this short clip for instance and tell me how debris could move and stop like that?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8536779374329988710

There's plenty more, search for nasa smoking gun if your interested,
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It's hard to say with the quality of the video being so low, but it looks to me that a lot of what you see is just due to light refracting into the camera, since the craft is moving the mark moves too. I often have similar problems when photographing with a light source to the side of me, only obviously in the photograph the mark does not move around :)
 
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It's a very interesting bit of little known history, remember those cigar shaped ufo's people have sighted in the past but you never hear these days, well i read those were actually submarines, if the tech could lift any weight easily then tons of metal isn't a problem for it and submarines were ideal at the time, pretty incredible if true!
 
Radiation said:
It's a very interesting bit of little known history, remember those cigar shaped ufo's people have sighted in the past but you never hear these days, well i read those were actually submarines, if the tech could lift any weight easily then tons of metal isn't a problem for it and submarines were ideal at the time, pretty incredible if true!
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Interesting. That never occured to me about the cigar shaped UFOs. It would make sense as well because submarines were ready built to withstand extreme pressure.
 
yak.h'cir said:
It's hard to say with the quality of the video being so low, but it looks to me that a lot of what you see is just due to light refracting into the camera, since the craft is moving the mark moves too. I often have similar problems when photographing with a light source to the side of me, only obviously in the photograph the mark does not move around :)
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How does that work here, i see objects moving through space, i think this ones a little hard to debunk as either debris or light, the way it moves and follows the shuttle is hard to explain away by those things, also how it actually gets in formation is a sign.

There's also the tether incident where many objects and no doubt some debris are flying around, some of these objects turn in space, something in motion stays in motion, especially in the emptiness of space.
 
magick said:
Interesting. That never occured to me about the cigar shaped UFOs. It would make sense as well because submarines were ready built to withstand extreme pressure.
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Yes, because an alien race travelled light years in an highly advanced inter-stellar craft to do nothing more than levitate a few submarines above the Countryside, in such a manner that every photograph turns out to be nothing but a blurry tube.

Probably make more sense if it turned out to be 'alien adolescents' who've stolen the keys to their parents saucer and are out having a laugh at our expense.
 
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