UK Gov Says Password Sharing on Streaming Services is Illegal

I mean, of course it is if its against their terms and conditions.

In the same way you can't buy photoshop and then give a copy to all your mates and let them log in using your account.

The issue is more the value that people see in these services if they can't share with their friends/family. Netflix is crazy expensive for what they give you unless you share it with others.
 
Ridiculous

If the streaming services were bothered by it they could easily restrict it. I suspect that having more people viewing their content and and talking to others about it does more good than locking down viewing locations / devices. I certainly wouldn't pay for all the streaming services I have access to if the cost wasn't split.
 
I mean, of course it is if its against their terms and conditions.

In the same way you can't buy photoshop and then give a copy to all your mates and let them log in using your account.

The issue is more the value that people see in these services if they can't share with their friends/family. Netflix is crazy expensive for what they give you unless you share it with others.

Is that an actual law though or just a breach of Ts&Cs. The copyright claim sounds like a bit of a grey area to me, as unlike physically downloading media, streaming you only have access whilst whoever owns the subscription continues to pay. Which also makes the point of artists missing out on potential revenues a bit of a moot point.

Most families tend to each sub to a service and then share it. So amongst a family you might have 4 subscriptions. As opposed to a family only purchasing 1 subscription if sharing was prohibited.

It sounds to me like the typical complaint about wanting more revenue from streaming services. If they weren't so fragmented or overpriced to start with then people wouldn't be against not sharing.
 
Is that an actual law though or just a breach of Ts&Cs. The copyright claim sounds like a bit of a grey area to me, as unlike physically downloading media, streaming you only have access whilst whoever owns the subscription continues to pay. Which also makes the point of artists missing out on potential revenues a bit of a moot point.

Most families tend to each sub to a service and then share it. So amongst a family you might have 4 subscriptions. As opposed to a family only purchasing 1 subscription if sharing was prohibited.

It sounds to me like the typical complaint about wanting more revenue from streaming services. If they weren't so fragmented or overpriced to start with then people wouldn't be against not sharing.
There's a good argument that it's infringement via communication to the public (s20 Copyright Designs and Patents Act) in that, by sharing your subscription, you are allowing a "new public" (i.e. people who are not themselves subscription payers) to access the material. Similarly, further to the Filmspieler decision in 2017, there's a good argument that anyone accessing such streams is also infringing (see eg https://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2017/04/filmspeler-right-of-communication-to.html).

This has been a criminal offence for years (s107(2A)).

The article referenced in the OP isn't talking about any change to the law, it's just pointing out that there's a campaign to make more people aware of the law (and, I suppose, possibly indicating that there's going to be a crackdown on offenders, although given that the police are struggling to deal with more serious crimes I'm not quite sure how anyone expects that to work).

There's a lot in that article which is misleading (or arguably incorrect), particularly this sentence: handing your password out to people you don’t live with is often another matter, although extrapolating that (e.g. Netflix merely describes this activity as being “unauthorized” or “not allowed“) to something that is overtly “illegal” and a “potential crime” seems like a very low bar to be setting for criminality

At the most basic level, if you access / use copyright material without authorisation, you're infringing copyright. When you use Netflix, they negate that copyright infringement by providing the account holder with a licence, on certain terms. If those terms say that the licence extends to (eg) the account holder's housemates or family, then there is no infringement should those people access the account. Conversely, if such sharing is "unauthorized" or "not allowed", there is no licence or authorisation to offset the infringement. Therefore, there is infringement.
 
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without reading it, i'm curious how they would enforce or police that law? to my mind it'd be a bit like making swearing illegal at home. how in gods name are they going to know i called someone a **** while streaming my bros netflix account :p
 
without reading it, i'm curious how they would enforce or police that law? to my mind it'd be a bit like making swearing illegal at home. how in gods name are they going to know i called someone a **** while streaming my bros netflix account :p
At a guess, the intention is to take a firmer approach against people egregiously abusing Netflix accounts, for instance people who set up accounts, and then sell access to others on eBay etc.

In theory, if you share your account with your brother there's a risk there, but as you say it's hard to envisage how anyone would find out.
 
I'm wondering how exactly this works... Since technically it can be said that anyone who happens to be in the same room as you when you start watching the TV as you put something on is breaking said law, since only the "subcriber" has the right to watch, not anyone else according to this. Which is likely why Netflix has the "household" and "authorised" rule for the subscriber. Which then comes up again when the subsciber goes to their parents and watches there and doesn't log back out or adds the TV so they can turn up and watch when they're around again. At what point is it breaking the rules and becomes illegal? Since rule by law supercedes rule by company no?
 
without reading it, i'm curious how they would enforce or police that law? to my mind it'd be a bit like making swearing illegal at home. how in gods name are they going to know i called someone a **** while streaming my bros netflix account :p

I guess it's the threat that would put most people off. It's no different to piracy really. As long as you're not flogging your downloaded films at a market/car boot, you're unlikely to ever get caught/found out.
 
Netflix is crazy expensive for what they give you unless you share it with others.

Really?

Isn't the top plan around the same price as the TV license? Which is like 2 beers a month (London prices).

And you get more content, better content, more varied content, no ads or breaks, it's on-demand...
 
Really?

Isn't the top plan around the same price as the TV license? Which is like 2 beers a month (London prices).

And you get more content, better content, more varied content, no ads or breaks, it's on-demand...

Broadly similar but your TV licence pays for a huge amount of tv content, news, radio. Also 95%+ of the stuff on netflix is utter crap as well.
 
Broadly similar but your TV licence pays for a huge amount of tv content, news, radio. Also 95%+ of the stuff on netflix is utter crap as well.
So if it doesn't offer you value, don't subscribe?

I find it bizarre that people's response to poor value propositions in respect of content is to pirate it.
 
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Every single streaming media site offers better value than the BBC for the sole reason you can dip in and out of them as much as you like.

Don't like the content on Netflix? Drop it until there's a decent amount for you to watch then subscribe until you've watched what you want.

Don't like the content on the BBC? Tough, pay or we'll smash your door down.

As for the government deciding sharing passwords is illegal, **** them. I'll keep sharing mine with my family.
 
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