UK prepares for faster broadband (apparently)

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UK prepares for faster broadband
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Some fear next-generation broadband could deepen digital divisions

The government is to unveil findings from a long-awaited review of the UK's broadband services.

They will help decide if firms should get subsidies to lay higher-speed cables for homes and businesses.

Industry estimates have put a minimum £5.1bn price tag on fitting the UK for next-generation broadband.

That service would boost the speed of connections linking homes and businesses to the net to 100 Megabits per second (Mbps) and beyond.

Capital cost fears

In the UK the average speed of fixed line net access is in the low tens of Mbps. Telecoms firms aim to boost speeds by replacing ageing copper cables with fibre and use light to carry data.

However, the capital cost of such a national re-wiring programme could prove prohibitive.

The cost of stringing fibre cables to every home and business could cost £28.8bn, according to a report from the Broadband Stakeholder's Group (BSG).

The cheapest option would be taking fibre to the street cabinets that connect homes and businesses to telephone exchanges. But, said the BSG report, even this could cost £5.1bn.

The BBC has been told that the report says there is no case for the UK government to provide cash subsidies to telecoms firms in order to accelerate the deployment of fibre.

BT commitment

It is also believed to stop short of recommending big changes to the UK's regulatory regime to ensure firms invest in fibre.

Telecoms giant BT has already said it would invest £1.5bn to upgrade its network and put 40% of UK homes within reach of next generation broadband by 2012. In addition Virgin is investing in its network to boost speeds to subscribers.

The report, written by former Cable and Wireless boss Francesco Caio, is believed to call on the government to keep an eye on the development of next-generation broadband.

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can any network/ISP experts here perhaps give a rundown of what costs so much in upgrading broading for it to cost so much? Is the main cost the digging up of roads to lay loads of cables? or is the actual equipment (the fibre and all the routers/switches to handle it) more expensive?

Upgrading broadband would be so much cheaping in my opinion if companies like VM choose to lay fibre in new housing areas, during early development along with phone lines. If they lay the fibre before the houses are complete they wont have to dig up any roads to lay the cables later on.
 
What ever happened to that idea of laying fibre in the sewage network for a fraction of the cost?
 
What ever happened to that idea of laying fibre in the sewage network for a fraction of the cost?

What happens if the sewer gets blocked? I thought they used a bore machine to clear blockages..... would this not also "clear" the cables as well? :D
 
What ever happened to that idea of laying fibre in the sewage network for a fraction of the cost?

It's not really practical in a lot of areas, as you need sewers with at least a certain diameter, and excess capacity (if you put too many cables in one that isn't wide enough you end up in the smelly stuff), and would still require roadworks/digging up for some parts of it, so it might be ok in some areas but certainly not on a national level.

What really needs to happen is for a new network of comms ducting to be laid, preferably with large enough pipes/ducts to allow for current BB needs, and easy upgrading in the future (rather than a half hearted attempt at stuffing it into existing pipes etc that weren't intended for it).
Something along the lines of what the cable companies did, but on a national scale, of near national scale (IIRC some rural areas are never going to be practical to do, unless paid for directly by the government as they would cost many times as much per person that even small towns).
 
Looks like Bournemouth is one of those places where it is suitable.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/08/bournemouth_fibre_city/

Sounds like it's fibre-to-the-door as well at a cheaper cost than what BT will do fibre-to-the-cabinet.

Can't they just do a mix of sewer cabling and traditional methods where necessary?

It would be nice for a future-proofed method but
1) It will cost a fortune and it will be us who pay (either through tax or higher broadband charges)
2) It still probably won't be implemented properly so the network companies can make money "fixing" it later.

It could also be done overground in places like electricity pylons.
 
Whoda thunk it, the middle of a city is semi-ideal for running ducting through its sewers.
As Werewolf said, proper ducting is the way to go - you can't indefinitely stick more ducting in sewers, some sewers are already way past capacity (or just don't have room for ducting in the first place) and there needs to be somewhere to put the kit too.

It could also be done overground in places like electricity pylons.

Pylons don't go everywhere, and if you haven't noticed fibre + ducting is pretty heavy...
 
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