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Unboxing a new old Windows 98 PC

Discussion in 'Retro Gaming and Vintage Computing' started by almoststew1990, Dec 1, 2018.

  1. almoststew1990


    Joined: May 12, 2011

    Posts: 4,452

    Location: Southampton

    Yesterday I picked up this PC on eBay for £25. I've been keeping an eye on eBay for several weeks for people selling "junk" old PCs for 99p or so, within a 50 mile radius for cash on collection. Then this shows up:
    The spec isn't that interesting but it's new in box which is very interesting to me! Also, my second PC (but the first I actually remember a bit about, as I was 4 when we got our first one and 8 when we got our second) was a Tiny. I put a small bid in. No one else bid but the reserve wasn't met. The new eBayer set a reserve at £50, the lowest it could go. I messaged the seller and agreed on £25.

    After searching with a <50 mile radius, this PC was only 500m from my house too!

    Here are some unboxing photos:
    You might remember Tiny PC - they were very basic and cheap, as we can see with what was packed!


    It's spec is:

    MS6156 - AGP, PCI and ISA. It might well support some P3s too.
    VIA VT82C693/VT82C693A Chipset
    P2 350MHz Deschutes
    64 Mb RAM
    ATI Xpert 98 8mb which is apparently based on Rage Turbo.
    "leading edge" Creative® ES1373 sound

    I'll be firing it up this morning :D
  2. Duke

    Man of Honour

    Joined: Jun 29, 2003

    Posts: 33,149

    Location: Wiltshire

    An interesting find :p I like how they copied the Windows logo for the side panel vent haha.

    Completely forgot about Amtrak.
  3. Ryan-3


    Joined: Sep 14, 2009

    Posts: 7,483

    Location: Northumberland

    I remember finding a stack of old Tiny machines at school. So cool to find a brand new one. :)

    edit: Spotted that also Duke, just wasn't sure if it was a direct copy or just happened to be similar :p
  4. gavindo


    Joined: Nov 22, 2004

    Posts: 369

    Location: Kent

    very nice, id be digging out all my old big box games :) Total Annihilation used to get played loads on my old p2
  5. Zefan


    Joined: Jan 15, 2006

    Posts: 29,009

    Location: Tosche Station

    This is awesome.


    Love it :cool:
  6. almoststew1990


    Joined: May 12, 2011

    Posts: 4,452

    Location: Southampton

    It's got a lot of pre-installed software on it:

    Carling Ultimate Football Quiz
    Carling Ultimate Pub Quiz
    Collins Quotations
    Crossword Addict
    GSP Family Tree
    GSP Ultimate Sport Quiz

    Return of The Arcade:
    Dig Dug
    Pole Position

    ATI DVD Player
    Cheyenne Bitware (seems to be faxing software)
    Europress 3D Interior Designer
    MS Works
    MS Money
    IBM ViaVoice
    Trend PC-cillin 98 (backup restore)

    I'm tempted to leave this OEM install of Windows as it is, put in another HDD and put a clean version of Windows on that.
  7. sja360


    Joined: Jul 28, 2003

    Posts: 3,718

    Location: Dundee

    Holy smokes! That's what we used to play at a Lan at my house. Great game and many hours of fun.

    Mate had a tiny pc, I built one instead and tbh tiny pc's were decent but just not very upgradable due to the pc case and PSU sizes.
  8. Skorpion


    Joined: Jun 5, 2010

    Posts: 591

    Location: Lincolnshire

    What an absolutely awesome find, well done.
  9. Ninco!


    Joined: Jul 8, 2014

    Posts: 662

    Location: Surrey

    Echo the comments, what a fantastic find - it looks great. A brand new retro PC; what are the chances! I would have wrapped it up and left it under the tree!
    Hell, if I received a NIB retro PC for Xmas... epic! :D
  10. mrbell1984


    Joined: Aug 9, 2008

    Posts: 19,848

    Location: UK

    No way! Nice find! You should have shot a video of it's boot up. Stick a SSD in there! I think you can get adaptors for drives and install windows 98 on it. Faster startup than todays machines.

    8.4GB drive! wow!
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2018
  11. Firestar_3x


    Joined: Mar 11, 2005

    Posts: 29,185

    Location: Leafy Cheshire

    Mate had that exact unit back in the day, great find.
  12. SupraWez

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Nov 17, 2007

    Posts: 2,020

    Nice find :)
  13. LewisRaz

    Wise Guy

    Joined: May 23, 2016

    Posts: 1,581

    Location: North Essex

    Very Jealous thats a great find! :)
  14. panthro


    Joined: Nov 19, 2004

    Posts: 11,570

    Location: Wokingham

    Great find and a blast from the past :)
  15. almoststew1990


    Joined: May 12, 2011

    Posts: 4,452

    Location: Southampton

    Sadly this is back in its box whilst I think what to do with it! It is too loud and slow (graphics in particular) for general retro use.

    I could upgrade it to make it better for retro gaming. So I could put in a 650MHz and a TnT2 from my current W98/DOS PC but then... Well, it would just be the same as my current w98 / DOS PC! I have a few other CPUS and GPUs lying around that I could use but they'd all be worse than my quiet and "quick enough" W98 PC.

    The case is cool and small so I could reuse it for another modern or retro PC. but takes a small PSU. I'll have to measure it to see if it is SFX or some unusual form factor, so I might not be able to upgrade it to a modern PSU which is really essential for using the case at all (noise).

    So yeah I'm not really sure what to do with it. As a stand alone barebones bundle it is quite good. It has AGP, PCI and ISA slots; can take coppermine CPUS and the capacitors are new. So I think so it's makes a good base to sell for someone else to make a PC out of. After all there was no interest in it being a new in box PC when I bought it!
  16. jsmoke


    Joined: Jun 17, 2012

    Posts: 6,879

    Exact what we had in 1998 from Tiny, mother ordered a 500mhz by the time we picked it up it was 550mhz.
  17. almoststew1990


    Joined: May 12, 2011

    Posts: 4,452

    Location: Southampton

    As did I! It was a bit faster and with slightly better graphics but the case and noise it made was the same. I heard it so many times 20 years ago that it's ingrained into my memory and it sounded identical! The feel and sound of the power button too. Not something that I had thought about for 20 years but as soon as I pressed the button it it all came back lol
  18. MookJong


    Joined: Mar 20, 2006

    Posts: 7,344

    That brings back so many memories. Thanks for sharing.

    I had a Tiny Pentium II with a dedicated ATI graphics card which I think had 4MB RAM on it.
  19. Doug2507


    Joined: Sep 13, 2013

    Posts: 795

    Location: Aberdeen

    Very cool, nice find! :cool:
  20. Ninco!


    Joined: Jul 8, 2014

    Posts: 662

    Location: Surrey

    Disappointing to hear, a similar situation to myself. In the summer I picked up a couple of Dell's, one packed up (PSU) and the other is just too slow for the types of games I want to play. Both placed in the attic until I decide what to do with them.

    A small project lined up for Christmas holidays, an IBM Thinkcentre M81 for Windows XP gaming. Old Dos games are covered off by Dosbox and can play on a Windows 10 system. There are some games I cannot get to work in Windows 10, that I really want to play (Geoff Crammonds GP3, Colin McRae Rally, Sierra Nascar, Mig Alley etc).

    I picked up a HP Think Client a couple of months back and its been great, only I wanted something a bit more powerful so opted for a M81. Dedicated cards for graphics and sound - Hoping the IBM will scratch the retro gaming itch.

    Almoststew1990, I love your setup! I have been meaning to ask; what are the white open cabinets you use for your PC desk - the units which you have your PC cases setup in?