Unemployment Mandatory work scheme does not improve job chances
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It was taken from the viaduct archways near the old train station in Leicester. Saw it on the way back from the jobcentre one afternoon and had to take a picture.
Might not be there for long now, seeing as the council seem determined to knock down every last bit of victorian engineering in the city.
I find that quite offensive. It's a good job as of tomorrow I start my new job!
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at the same time! 
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I agree.
However, we need to stop companies outsourcing work abroad if we want to achieve anywhere near full employment like we had in the distant past.
No, I addressed them then you vanished, because you'd forgotten to account for little things like the current cost of the tax free allowance, the fact that the figures quoted were examples, the current cost of our massively inefficient taxation and benefit structure, the current cost of tax avoidance and so on...
Not at all, there's no ownership changes or anything for the means of production. Furthermore, the system I've proposed in the past involves a strict single tax rate solution on all received untaxed income (irrespective of source), so it enforces fairness in both taxation and benefits as all people are treated equally.
Well, the idea is that, as tax will be made properly and fairly democratic, that the balance will be found between the taxation the population overall is willing to pay (as it affects everyone) and the spending desires they have from the state.
Ok, can you supply me all the base figures I'll need and I'll happily calculate it all out.
People would have more chance of getting a job if there was actually any worthwhile jobs available. Looking on the job seekers site for my area, all the current jobs are for things like 6 hours a week cleaning and Bettaware distribution.
One company I used to work for practically had more staff from New Deal type programmes than proper employed staff. We used to call them "freebies"
One company I used to work for practically had more staff from New Deal type programmes than proper employed staff. We used to call them "freebies"
companies bung them money and the unemployment stats look slightly better
they are all in cahoots with these part time and temporary jobs too. companies get staff they can sack whenever they want and the government gets its job stats boosted because 3 people have got what would have been just one job to share between them
People would have more chance of getting a job if there was actually any worthwhile jobs available. Looking on the job seekers site for my area, all the current jobs are for things like 6 hours a week cleaning and Bettaware distribution.
One company I used to work for practically had more staff from New Deal type programmes than proper employed staff. We used to call them "freebies"
tesco depot near here has more agency staff than proper staff , they get about 2 quid less an hour and do more work and more accurate work. they have hardly any rights and get sacked off when they have been there long enough to start to have proper rights . 2500+ staff members in 1 and 3/4 years. nice turnover.
Yeah i mean those people were forced to be there as the practical assessment for them to earn their £200+ security license.
Damn that evil government forcing them to get a skill.
Well if it didnt work when they forced them to go to school, it will never work.
Repeating the past is stupid.
Shock as many people see supermarket work as a temp job between school/uni/apprenticeships and other careers.
well they're all now qualified and can go do event security, fully paid at big events like say the Olympics......
In both my local papers, every single job this week was a volunteer position. First time I've ever seen this.
not a supermarket. not people leaving by choice
you seriously think that jobless people in the north east are going after dream or other careers at the moment ? people take whatever they can get. and what they can get is part time temporary work where they get sacked as soon as they hit the magic 12 weeks where they must be paid what permanent staff get paid
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Yup, there's a lot of jobs like that in my area too. They're the sort of jobs that middle aged house-wifey types do to stave off boredom and add a little extra to the housekeeping money while hubby is at work - you cannot actually earn a living wage out of them.
One of the leafleting jobs I looked was for those phone cards that get put through your door, for making calls to poland or india etc.
How you earned money was based on the % of these phone cards actually used to make a call.
Not an hourly rate for time spent delivering the cards, or even a price per card delivered.
Essentially, you could spend a whole week delivering cards to the area you were assigned and not earn a single penny.
The schpiel from the 'employer' was that 'after you find an area where the cards are used (based on a unique identity number on each card) you could then repeat deliver to these areas, thereby ensuring your pay etc.
This was advertised as a 'realistic job opportunity' at the jobcentre.
I called it what it is - a scam.
Staff at the JC were not really bothered though.
I half jokingly asked one bloke at the JC if they'd give me a job vetting the job adverts to see if they were genuine offers and not scammers... the reply was along the lines of... 'oh well, I don't really know anything about that, we do have a department who sort of deal with the adverts but they're somewhere else'.
So many of the jobs I looked at that were not based in what I am qualified to do would not have paid even half of my bills each month. It used to make me laugh when some minister for procrastination or whatever, would appear on the radio saying 'look at all of these thousands of jobs each week that people could do if only they weren't so workshy blah blah blah'. What they fail to mention in their soundbyte is that either the jobs are part time with pro-rata pay and hours or the jobs are in very specialised areas of employment and require very specific experience and skills that no-one outside of the industry the job is based in would qualify for.