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I have a question for anyone why is there such a thing about people having to go to university before their 20 etc and if they don't then it looks bad for that person?

Is it such a crime if you don't make the leap ? , it seems that the norm is for a university education is this usually the case or am i barking up the wrong tree in this?


Where do you full on this ?
 
I think your grammar will be more of a crime than your age. There are older students in my class no-one really judges now, but if you are in your 20's and join at the start, I could imagine the other 1st years around you being prats and acting immature.
 
It is only the norm' through some retarded attempt at social engineering by Labour.

There is no stigma attached to going, or not, to university. Unless obviously for grad schemes etc.

I know 50yr olds that have done degrees.
 
Hell, I dropped out and have been pretty sucessful since leaving - don't go to uni because its the "done thing", that's what I did and regretted it
 
I didnt realise there was a stigma, when I was at uni there were people from all ages there, youngest was 17 oldest was 42, although the 42 year old didnt come out or anything. SO more realistically it was 17 to 26ish I think.

In many ways the people who took a couple years out were more rounded individuals and a bit more interesting if they'd been off travelling or worked a couple of jobs etc.
 
Going to university isn't a necessity. If you want to go and you've got a subject that you are interested in then that's great but if you've got no inclination towards it then there's very little point. There's no one way through life that is right for everyone, you've got to find your own way - by all means ask for advice but understand that it's up to you as you're the one who has to live with the consequences.

//edit if it matters I did go to university and graduated with a law degree.
 
well what do you want to do as a career? you may need a university qualification in order to do it....
 
I have a question for anyone why is there such a thing about people having to go to university before their 20 etc and if they don't then it looks bad for that person?

Why do you think there is?

I don't

There are very few careers that absolutely require a degree - tis basically just engineering, medical and teaching professions. It is still perfectly possible to do well in business without one.

The founders of Microsoft, Oracle, Apple, Dell and more recently facebook are all college dropouts.

Though on average you're probably better off with one if you're looking to join a profession or do well in an established firm.
 
I have a question for anyone why is there such a thing about people having to go to university before their 20 etc and if they don't then it looks bad for that person?

Is it such a crime if you don't make the leap ? , it seems that the norm is for a university education is this usually the case or am i barking up the wrong tree in this?

Short answer: Yes, it's fine.

I started off thinking University wasn't for me and left school during my A-Levels (unlike nearly everyone I know who just went because they couldn't be bothered to go get a job.)

But then I worked in Tech Support and realised after a year I wasn't getting anywhere unless I studied (I actually want to work in the industry.)

So I went to college and did my A-levels in one year (..*shudders* dreadful having to do it all in one year) and now I'm doing Comp Science full time.

So I believe I'm in Uni for the right reasons unlike a lot of others.
 
I want to be a teacher, so I'm scuppered without University.

I think the value of a degree has decreased a lot though, especially with the introduction of many 'banter' subjects. Do we really need so many media students and what not? On Monday, my friend came along to a pub quiz I go to. One round was titled 'TV & Film'. She said "Oh, I'll get this - it's my degree!"
Bah! Shame there isn't room for legal and political questions in your average pub quiz.

Because of the sheer number of people now going to University, it looks bad if you don't. Mob mentality I guess?
 
it seems that the norm is for a university education is this usually the case or am i barking up the wrong tree in this?

The norm isn't a university education as only around 20% of adults have a degree or higher qualification. There is a higher percentage, around 30%, of adults who have no qualifications whatsoever.
 
I have a question for anyone why is there such a thing about people having to go to university before their 20 etc and if they don't then it looks bad for that person?

Is it such a crime if you don't make the leap ? , it seems that the norm is for a university education is this usually the case or am i barking up the wrong tree in this?

Where do you full on this ?

There's absolutely nothing wrong with waiting a few years and figuring out whether a university degree would/could help you and also if there's something you're interested in enough that you want to study it for 3 years.

I went to university at 21, and I know I got far more out of it than I would have if I'd gone at 18/19. For one, I would have chosen the wrong degree and probably gone to the wrong university. As it was, I found myself really engaged in my course from the get go and found it far easier to stay motivated and work harder than a lot of my younger cohort. This isn't a boast, but I graduated with a first, and I know I definitely wouldn't have had the motivation to work hard enough to do that if I'd been fresh out of 14yrs of continuous education.

Another thing worth thinking about is what you bring to university and your friends/seminars. At 18 you're not going to have done much outside of school, maybe some part time work and holidays etc. If you are thinking about a year or two off, do something with it. It doesn't really matter if it's a trade like bricklaying or teaching English in Cambodia - just DO something. When I got to uni I could pretty much instantly tell the difference between people who had come straight from school and people who'd taken GAP year. This wasn't negative, but non-GAP year people tended to take a bit longer to come out of their shells and grab the uni opportunity by both ears.

Uni is probably the most people you'll ever meet in one go in your entire life (my halls alone was over 400 people) and it will help you get so much out of it if you have a little more confidence and things to talk about than the average student.

Uni shouldn't be a sausage factory, turning out bland graduates, it should be something that's for the best and brightest and people who REALLY want to go. If half the people who went to uni because 'daddy' told them to just went into some sort of finance apprenticeship instead, the quality of teaching for people who really want to learn would go up exponentially. Also, with tuition fees looking like they might go up to above £10k a year I'd think very seriously before going 'just for the sake of it.'

JC-Retro - I did the same thing of A-levels in one year. Talk about learning a work ethic... That made first year seem like a cakewalk by comparison!
 
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Some people just want to get on with life.

Personally my current plan I'm doing my masters in business and administration, have a family, then probably mess it up trying to become a doctor.
I don't see a problem with going back to uni when you're old if you can afford it, some people might but they're just idiots.

Most jobs leading to sweet salaries, will require a degree to get your foot in the door.
 
I went to uni straight after college and at first I thought it's what I wanted. After a couple of years, I realised that uni isn't for me.

Several years later, I am still without a degree and have a good job I enjoy. When I started this job, I was told that I was chosen over degree-holding applicants because I had more knowledge than lecture-taught uni goers.

In reality, it's all about experience, confidence and knowledge. Having a piece of paper with a qualification on it just doesn't do anything for me. Dropping out of uni was one of the best things I've ever done with my life. :)
 
Going straight to University from school and 6th form/college is the very worst thing you can do if you ask me. I took time out before going to Uni to get a job, earn quite a bit of money, and generally live in the real world for a bit. Two main advantages were a) Appreciating the value of my course. You never see the money used to pay for it, but it still costs you, loan or no loan.. and b) Being able to come to uni with some money in the bank. I live on my own, have no problems with purchasing course materials, and generally don't need to play the poor student card every 5 waking minutes. I'm also set in kit and equipment to use my skills to work, without relying on University for anything but the education.

Whist I'm older than many people on my course, once you get to Uni I really dont think it's much of an issue. You get the same fresh from 6th form immature types, but generally my University (Or at very least my course) attracts slightly older students. A good chunk of us are 21-30.
 
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I thought the same as you OP before I went, it was the biggest waste of 3 years possible.
A few off my course failed, I scraped by in the end and then found myself a proper career, whereas all the people that really grafted in my course and came out with brilliant portfolios too struggled to find work.
Guess who earns the most after a year and a half, and my big bucks dont come for another 2 years.

Dont bother going if theres no real academic subject you want to go for, most of the courses are stupid mickey moues ones that wont benefit you.
My degree is a worthless piece of paper, I may use it as a stepping stone to something higher in the future but I certainly wont be utilising anything learnt from university.
 
I have a question for anyone why is there such a thing about people having to go to university before their 20 etc and if they don't then it looks bad for that person?

Is it such a crime if you don't make the leap ? , it seems that the norm is for a university education is this usually the case or am i barking up the wrong tree in this?


Where do you full on this ?

Completing University, or school for that matter, and writing as you do, is bad.

Going to University post 20 yrs old is no big deal, if anything you'll be more mature, focussed and not make friends with people for the sake of it. Confidence is a huge factor in life, and many people at the age of 18 don't have it. Many may think they do, but spend most their time trying to be "cool" or "popular" instead of being themself.

I think too many people are going to Uni, and it's devaluing degrees as it seems the majority do not even use their degree.

But go back to GCSE English first.
 
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I thought the same as you OP before I went, it was the biggest waste of 3 years possible.
A few off my course failed, I scraped by in the end and then found myself a proper career, whereas all the people that really grafted in my course and came out with brilliant portfolios too struggled to find work.
Guess who earns the most after a year and a half, and my big bucks dont come for another 2 years.

Dont bother going if theres no real academic subject you want to go for, most of the courses are stupid mickey moues ones that wont benefit you.
My degree is a worthless piece of paper, I may use it as a stepping stone to something higher in the future but I certainly wont be utilising anything learnt from university.

What sort of level do you think big bucks are?
 
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